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Acid Rain Pouring Down like Egg Chow Mein: FernGully (1992)
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Two friends revisit FernGully with fresh eyes, balancing nostalgia with critique, and dig into how a 90s underdog turned environmental themes into a vivid, musical fable. We weigh Robin Williams’ improvisational spark, Disney-era pressures, and the film’s uneven but heartfelt storytelling.
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Setting The Stage: Why FernGully
SPEAKER_06Hello and welcome to the Real Talk and Banter Podcast. I'm Amari.
SPEAKER_00And I'm Jay.
SPEAKER_06And today we'll we will be discussing Fern Gully: The Last Rainforest, a 1992 animated film. This is our first animated feature, and I'm very excited. How do you feel?
SPEAKER_03Uh it's nice. It's nice to do a break from the norm and look into animated movies. Like, you know, we all grew up in the in the 90s of Pixar and Disney and animation and everything. So it's a nice little call back to our childhood for sure.
SPEAKER_06I liked how vague your answer was, and you spoke about the time in general and not about this movie in particular.
SPEAKER_03Uh, you know, I uh I I would, you know, this is not one of our best, but either way. Well, hold up. Okay.
SPEAKER_06I have some numbers for you that will indicate otherwise.
SPEAKER_03Oh, okay. We got numbers.
SPEAKER_06So you did not watch this as a child. I did not watch it. You did not watch this as a child. This is your first time. Yes. Okay. So that that might make it tough since it was made for children. Uh, but let's let's see how we will unfold what you thought about this movie. I will give a quick synopsis first. So the movie uh Ferngully, The Last Rain Forest, it is about some fairies. Yes. Some fairies that live in this forest. The forest is in takes place in Australia, and they have humans. Oh wow. Did you not get that?
SPEAKER_02I mean, there was a random kangaroo, and I was like, what a fruit? Where are kangaroo come from? I was so confused.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, there was like castraries in there as well.
SPEAKER_04Like there were some there were some very distinct Australian Australian animals, and I was confused. I'll be very honest. I was like, what a fancy.
SPEAKER_06Nobody, nobody had an Australian accent. Yeah. So that's tough. That was tough. But if you're familiar with Australian uh geography, topography, you would know that Mount Warning, which they do mention in the movie, is in Australia. Um I was not aware of that. However, when Zach uh became shrunken down and Crystal looked at his wallet, if you freeze-frame, you could read and it shows that it was uh Australian driver's license on there. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Alright. Well, so you have fairies, you have humans, they live in separate worlds. There's this dangerous being called Hexus, which is a representation of pollution and sludge and slime. Hundreds or I'm gonna assume hundred years ago, that is the fairies locked Hexus away into this tree. In present day, the humans are going through, doing as humans do, chopping down the trees, deforestation is taking place. In doing so, Hexus is released. The fairy, one human boy, he is 16 years old, is shrunken down accidentally by Krista, our main protagonist, and together they have to figure out how to stop the humans and save Fern Gully, which is the forest, from being destroyed. That is pretty much the entire movie right there. How did you feel about this? Okay, I don't want you to rate it. I just want to know you're watching
First Impressions And Childhood Context
SPEAKER_06this. So I told you, I said, hey, I picked our movie for episode six. It's gonna be our first animated feature. I remember I was pretty dramatic about it, and then I told you we're gonna do Fern Gully, The Last Rain First. You gave me no reaction other than I think, cool, and that was it. We haven't spoken about the movie really until now. So, just walk me through your journey with this movie.
SPEAKER_04Alright, so yes, when you took when you said it was gonna be fern gully, my first reaction was like, what the hell is that? To be very honest. Like, I have never heard of it, not even like a little bit. So I was like, mmm, okay. You know, yeah, we were all pretty like I said in the beginning, we are pretty big on like TV and and and movies and animated movies. So it was just it was just kind of weird to I'm not saying I've seen every single animated movie in the world, obviously not, but to at least not hear of it. I'm like, mmm, what's this? But because you were so like animated about it, like, oh, this was my childhood movie, I was like, ah, let me give it a shot. You know, that's why I didn't have a reaction. I was just like, alright, cool, because I don't know nothing about it, but you're my boy and you're like, hey, this is a great movie. So I'm like, okay, let's uh let's see what happens. Um overall, overall, I have to admit, like I said, in the you know, my initial reaction was just like shitting all over this movie. You know, it's like, what is that? What is this? What is that? Like nothing made sense to me.
SPEAKER_01But then I had to think about it, like, okay, this movie is intended to be for a five to ten year old, maybe, in the 90s.
SPEAKER_04So, well, actually it came out in 92, so you know, you're maybe two, two to two to seven, let's say that range or whatever. So I really had to kind of step back and put myself in the mindset of a child in that time, and that helped tremendously because at first it was what the hell. But after that, it was like, alright, I see the themes, I see what's going on, I I see it's an interesting introduction to uh to climate um you know climate change and and and uh do uh deforestate uh deforestation and pollution and all that stuff, which you know I think at the time, especially in the 90s, it was definitely starting to ramp up of like those kind of conversations. Um, because you know, in the 70s and 80s, they didn't give a shit. I mean, there was smoking and blowing smoke in your face as a kid, so it wasn't till like the 90s, it started saying, hey, this is kind of bad. So trying to teach those.
SPEAKER_05Maybe we shouldn't destroy the place.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, maybe we shouldn't do that. So yeah, it was an it was a nice introduction to the themes. Um I
Music, Tone, And The Hexus Dilemma
SPEAKER_04like the music. I like the songs, they were they were they were decent. I did like the songs. Um The only thing about some of some of the songs were kind of a little much for like a kid, I thought.
SPEAKER_06Like um Hexus is it's funny you say that.
SPEAKER_04What?
SPEAKER_06Yes, go ahead. That version that version of Hexas' song is actually they redid it because the original version of it was too sexual and suggestive and dark for kids. Oh wow. So the one that you that is the improved version of the song that you heard um in the movie. Also, so Kim Curry Tim Curry is the one who voice uh Hex. Yeah, yeah, I saw that. And his reading of the lines also was way too sinister. They had to call him back in and say, listen, man, you're scaring the shit out of these kids. Dial it back a little bit, you know. So he had to retake a lot of his lines just to ease up on it.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_06So just picture that what your comments you're about to make, that song and his entire performance, that is the watered-down version of whatever the hell he did initially.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I want to hear the original version because I might have to put that on my like on my Spotify or something because yeah, I listened to Toxic Love, and I was like, um, I don't know if this is appropriate for kids. But I mean, you know, it it it had this one line where there was like it's acid rain pouring down like egg chow mein. And I was like, what the fuck are you gonna say? But I mean, hey, that's a great way to explain toxic love. So, I mean, you know, like I said, once I took myself back into like a child mindset, it was much better, and I thought it was a good introduction into those themes for the most part. So now I have to flip this on you. So you love this as a kid, this was your suggestion. Now that you've seen it as an adult, how do you feel about things?
SPEAKER_06I still like it. Um it will forever be near and dear in my heart, you know? And I just in watching as an adult, I became very aware that you may not be enjoying the movie for you know, obvious reasons. It's it is it is a children's movie. But uh there were some performances that I liked in the movie, there were some themes where you know, and I actually think in I should have had my son watch this and got his take on it. And I think I might do that the next time we have an animated movie, yeah. Uh especially a children's animated movie. I'll have him watch it with me.
SPEAKER_01Especially a 90s animated movie. I think that'd be a great ad to see like what his thoughts were.
SPEAKER_06This ain't this ain't no paw patrol. You understand what I'm saying? So a lot of our movies, our cartridges were pretty dark, such as this one got dark at times. But so 92, obviously I didn't watch this theatrically, but we had it on VHS. Um VHS, uh, for those underage listeners, it's a giant uh rectangular object that you would put into another old um appliance that would play the movie for you. Anyway, so I had this in VHS. I don't how do you explain a VHS to uh someone who's never seen one before?
SPEAKER_02I don't know, a giant cassette, perhaps, maybe?
SPEAKER_04Monet cassette is another old. What the fuck is a cassette? Yeah, exactly. Okay, okay, exactly.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, so okay, alright.
SPEAKER_04So it's a giant box that goes into another box and it plays movies. Got it.
SPEAKER_06I said an appliance, okay. Anyway, uh so I we had it on VHS. I'm pretty sure we watched it. We be my brothers and I. We watched it a bit. Do you know what VHS stands? It's ingrained as isn't it like video home system?
SPEAKER_00I don't know. I was asking, I figured you knew.
SPEAKER_06Oh, damn. Wow. Okay, how about you look that up while I finish my uh thing? So we watched it, my brothers and I we watched it several times. Uh fond memories, loved it. In watching it now, a lot of what happened, it was just the nostalgia is there and it's just shaking off the rust of oh yeah, I remember this, oh yeah, I remember that. So I still enjoyed the movie. However, I did become aware that we couldn't have our typical discussion about this movie as we've had in our past selections, just because I don't want to be sitting here just destroying this children's movie, and I mean it doesn't have I guess the substance. We just came off of Inglorious Bastards, and I think this is a nice palette cleanser from that, but you know, we can't have that level of insight into it. There are some thematic things in here that we will get into lightly because we're not about to make this a Greenpeace political save
Banter: Trivia Time! - Guess that Movie
SPEAKER_06the environment podcast at all, but we will touch on some of those those items. I have a few facts for you, right? Because I know you were talking about not knowing the movie, and you know, it's just going unknown, right? Let's I'm gonna dig into the box office um numbers for a little bit here, right? So the budget on this movie was I think it was 24 million.
SPEAKER_00Wow, 24 million for animation in 90s? That sounds super high.
SPEAKER_06That might be wrong then. Hold on. Yeah, the budget was 24 million for this thing, yeah. 100%. Okay, yeah, and it grows 24 million in the US, 24.7 in the US. Worldwide, it grows 32.7 million, uh 3.4 million of that was in Australia, right? I just I adjusted at 32.7 million. I adjusted, I didn't do the math, I Googled to find out what it would be adjusted for inflation, which would be 57.5 million today. Uh huh. It's not a lot of money. No, it is not. However, if we dig into some of the box office numbers, and if we remember, during this time of year, if I asked you what studio, I'm in a studio studio is reigning supreme, your answer would obviously be Pixar. Well, Disney or Disney, yeah. No, Pixar, because Pixar and Disney, I don't even think they had merged yet at this point in time. But Disney, right? Specifically, where this is this movie is releasing during what was called the Disney Renaissance. The Disney Renaissance is from 1989 to 1999. Prior to the Renaissance, it was kind of like a dark ages for Disney. Movies weren't selling good, they were not making a lot of money, right? So I went back and I looked up the box office numbers for the movies that were released during the Renaissance period. So starting in 1989, and I stopped at 1992. I didn't concern myself with what came after that. But things such as The Lion King, for example, which I believe was in 1994, is obviously gonna gross a ton of money. Correct. Because that's considered one of Disney's greatest movies, right? So can you tell me 1989, 1990, 1991, and 1992, those are the four years we're looking at. Can you tell me what movies Disney released in those years? Come on now. I know. Uh it's four movies, one for each year.
SPEAKER_04Snow White.
SPEAKER_06Wow. I'm gonna stop the game right here because you're terrible at it. Snow White being one of Disney's first movies. Like, what are you doing? You're off by like 50 years of age.
SPEAKER_02I said that.
SPEAKER_04As soon as I said it, I was like, I'm Snow White is like fucking 1930s or something.
SPEAKER_02Like, that's really bad. Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_04This is bad. That was a bad guess. I don't know what happened there. Okay, okay, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_06Again, your years are 1989 to 1992, which is when we were alive. Yes. Well, starting in 1990. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. So think movies that would have been prevalent during our time.
SPEAKER_04Oh my god. Like, but like before Lion King and then Lion King's 94, so I really I can't think of what Aladdin, maybe?
SPEAKER_06Aladdin is one. Aladdin was released in 1992.
SPEAKER_00Okay, Aladdin. Who else is these are very popular movies.
SPEAKER_04I know they're popular, but it's just like when was things released is the question.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, well, you don't have a good because as children, we're watching all these movies not knowing they were released like five years before we were born. However, of that 90s time, three of them, Aladdin was one, three of them you should be able to easily guess. And I took Lion King off the board to help you. So you have two more that you can guess, and I'll give you the last one.
SPEAKER_04Alright, so okay, so we have Aladdin and we have Lion, well, 94. I want to say Toy Story?
SPEAKER_03No, that's Pixar, yes. Dang. Who else is Disney around this? I'm trying not to blend the two. Oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_06So you're you're you're you're not a Disney, you're exposing yourself.
SPEAKER_04I mean, no, it's all you are you are exposing me. You are exposing me. But but but you also, like you said, you have to give me some grace because we were like kids. So it's like I'm not like, ah, this is in 92. Like, I don't know.
SPEAKER_06Like, I'm trying to think But when when you think Disney movies, there's like a certain okay, here's another hint. The other two movies I want you to guess have been remade recently. Yeah, you're terrible at this. I'm gonna put you out of your misery and our listeners out of their misery. So to begin the Renaissance was The Little Mermaid in 1989. Ah the other movie I wanted you to guess was Beauty and the Beast. I also should know that. I also should know that. Oh my god. The one I knew you would have a hard time with was the 1990 release, which was The Rescuers Down Under. Okay. No, I didn't know that. So those are the first four movies Disney released to start off the Renaissance period.
SPEAKER_04Ah, I knew that. I didn't I wasn't even thinking. I know you did. My bad. My bad readers. I'm sorry. I wasn't even thinking. All right. Till as a box.
SPEAKER_06No, you don't get to do that now.
SPEAKER_04I thought I was gonna like, you know, make up for that, but okay. I'll stay quiet. My fault.
SPEAKER_06Okay. So Little Mermaid gross 211 million dollars. The yep, the rescuers down under is the one outlier on this list. It only made 47 million.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, because what is that?
SPEAKER_06Beauty and the Beasts. Yeah. Beauty and the Beast made 424 million, and Aladdin made 504 million dollars. Wow. Right? They were raking it. So those movies, all even rescuers, I told you, came on under. It still was a top gross in animated film in 1990. So each of those movies I just read you were the top gross in animated films in those years. Here are what numbers two and three were for each of those years. So in 89, you had Little Mervet at 211 million, then you had Kiki's delivery service at 41 million, and you had and then you had All Dogs Go to Heaven at $27 million. Oh, I love All Dogs Go to Heaven.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god. All right, we will circle back to that movie in a future episode.
SPEAKER_06Okay. In 1990, behind the Rescuers 47 million, you had the Jetson movie at 20 million, and Dorimon, this is uh out of Japan at 19 million.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_06Beauty and the Beast made 424. Then you had Fifle Goes West at 40 million, and a movie called Only Yesterday, I believe that was also out of Japan, made 18 million. Fast forward to 1992, which is a critical year, and we'll discuss that in some detail a little bit longer in a in a little bit. Aladdin made $104 million. Porco Russell made $34 million. That is another Japanese film. And then Ferngully came in as the third highest grossing animated film of the year at $32.7 million. Okay. So my whole point of this whole exercise is that yes, you're like, oh, Ferngully, what the hell is that? It was incredibly difficult for movies, animated films to break into you know the the zeitgeist and the the public, um you know, the pop culture spectrum because Disney was it had a stranglehold on the entire industry. For example, if you take the the number Number two and number three ranking movies of 1989, 1990, 1991, and 1992, added all up together. That is 234 million dollars that non-Disney movies made in those years. That is 47% of what Aladdin made and 55% of what Beauty and the Beast made. And even for the Little Mermaid, it still only made $23 million more than Little Mermaid, and that's eight movies that I just told you about. So all that to say, let's cut Fron Gully some slack. It did really well given the climate and just Disney just being the all-stars that there were. Because during that period in time, Fron Gully would have been the fourth highest non-Disney animated movie that's that came out during that four-year window. So that was that's that's what I did a little homework for you guys today. Whoa, look at me go. He did. Look at me go.
SPEAKER_04He did. You were like, I needed you knew I was gonna rip into this. He's like, you know, I'm gonna defend this. I knew you were facts and numbers, which you know I can't argue. I can't argue facts and numbers. So I know.
SPEAKER_06I have a this is a spreadsheet I'm looking at too, by the way, okay? So yeah. Um Foreign Gully debuted at number five on its release weekend. It never went any higher than that, but you know, it it did okay. So Forn Gully is also notable.
Casting: Robin Williams’ Improvised Brilliance
SPEAKER_06Let's look at the cast of Forn Gully really quick, right? So we had Samantha First off, do you know any of the cast members? Well, that's not fair to ask. Because obviously, you know the GOAT, Robin Williams, Tim Curry, uh, Christian Slater is known, right? You have Samantha Mathis as Krista, homeboy that played Zach, Jonathan Ward. He like retired acting when he was like 28 years old. I think this was like his last movie that he did or something. Okay. Um, and then risky. Yeah, I'm gonna be this. Yeah, he's like, I'm I'm done. I'm done. Chi Chen Chong was in this movie for whatever that's worth. Okay, cool. Um, but the cast, the cast was interesting. It's just so Samantha Mathis, I don't know her, but she is an actor. Like, she has an extensive um filmography. She's that type of actor. Like, if you're watching like Law and Order and they make a big deal about someone, and you're like, who the fuck is that? It's her, you know, like she's yeah, you know, because you you don't know her, but they're treating her as if she's like the special guest or something, because she is. I'm not disrespecting her, but you know, so that's the kind of actor she was. Let's talk about Robin Williams. Bad that Robin Williams, that's please tell me that he at least made the movie for you enjoyable.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah. Most of my laughs, if not all of them, except some of the darker themes that I picked up on, made me it was from him, and it was just from the fact that I know that they probably didn't even have his lines written down. They just gave him a mic and was like, yo, this is what we're gonna say, you just improv. And he just did, and that just made it just over the top, just amazing.
SPEAKER_06Like to your point, what you just said, he was supposed to receive eight minutes of screen time, Batty Coda, and Robin Williams went in there and recorded 14 hours of dialogue for Batti Coda, and it was pretty much all improvised. Okay, yeah, so they essentially ended up about almost tripling his screen time, you know. But you were right on the money, like he just went there, improvised the hell out of those scenes and just crushed the role.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah. You could tell, you could tell, because it was just so off the cuff, like it didn't match the rest of the dialogue or what other people were saying.
SPEAKER_04It was just like it's just like it's just a and he's that guy, right? And we know he's that guy, but it was just like you like you're in class and you have that one funny friend that no one knows is funny except for like you, like the his friends or whatever, where he just like secretly just saying the most ridiculous things, and you're just like, ah, I wish I could be that funny, or off the cuff like that. Like when she uh when she was prote uh when uh Krista was trying to change Zach back and she really didn't know how to control her powers or whatever, and he was turning into all kind of random animals, and uh Batty uh Koda was like, ah, Darren's grab bag.
SPEAKER_01I died. I died. I don't know why, but I died.
SPEAKER_06That is a good one. Uh that is a good one, yes.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he just had a bunch of out just little like just things that he just pushed out.
SPEAKER_06But yeah, random things like that just made the movie uh you would miss Baddie when he wasn't on screen, you know, because there were there were long stretches where he just wasn't.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, where was he? I didn't understand that either.
SPEAKER_03I was like, like he's part of the group, but like he's just like swooping in randomly to like help, and then he just disappears.
SPEAKER_04And I I I guess I attributed that to like the antenna thing and whatever's going on with the fact that he's been tested on, and he just like he just like randomly like run into a tree and then just stay there until someone else like grabbed him and was like, hey, stop, and then he like moves. But I'm like, okay. It was just kind of it was kind of weird.
SPEAKER_06Literally, they only want him to have eight minutes. That was really why. You know, so they tripled it. Uh yeah, but well, well, no, so yeah, let's get into that, right?
Behind-The-Scenes Drama With Disney
SPEAKER_06So Robin Williams, there was some interesting, there was a bit of a scandal here with this movie. Oh, so if you re Yeah, if if you recall the other 1992 animated or the Disney movie was Aladdin, which Robin Williams is famously known for playing the gene in Aladdin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. However, I'm pretty sure for those of you that like random trivia, if someone were to ask you what is Robin Williams' first animated feature film role, a lot of people would say Aladdin, but no, it is Fern Gully. Because Ferngully being released in April of 1992, came out a few months before Aladdin, which was released, I believe, in November of 1992. Right? So here's where the drama is Robin Williams. So the story, when you look it up, you're gonna see Disney did not want Robin Williams doing both characters, they wanted him to only focus on Jeannie, and they didn't want two animated creatures to be associated with Robin Williams, especially in the same year, right? I saw another reporting that said technically Disney did not cast the first stone because it looks like some past Disney, they used to work for Disney, some of the writers on this film kind of got a look at who Disney's like desired talent pool was, and Robin Williams' name was on it, right? Again, Robin Williams had never done any animated films before, so this was about to be a big deal. So when they realized that Disney wanted him for the genie, they jumped the gun and said, Hey man, can you do this movie? Robin Williams, being the great guy that he is, said sure, I would love to. It's a great theme. I love the message about the environment I'm in. At the time, Jeffrey Katzenberg was in charge of Disney. So when they found out, they tried to get Robin Williams to quit the movie and only do theirs. It became a bit of an argument and back and forth. Robin Williams said, It's my voice, you can't control me. I'm going to do both things. Um, you know, like take it or leave it, essentially. Exactly.
SPEAKER_04Could you, oh my gosh, with this, let's let's stop for a second. Could you imagine a world in which, you know, they said this or that? And I feel like Robin Williams would have picked Ferngully just to stand on business and have somebody else voice Genie.
SPEAKER_06That'd be like well, you don't have to imagine that because in Aladdin 2, the return of Jafar, Robin Williams does not voice the genie.
SPEAKER_04Yes, yes, I do know that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Right? Because they had a falling up for other stuff that happened. Robin Williams and Disney had some beasts throughout the years, you know. But no, you're right. That would have a lad I just told you, Aladdin made $500 million. You know, like in no way would have been as successful if the genie wasn't such a prominent role, you know, to begin with. And I don't have any proof of this, but it's possible that because people saw what little people saw Robin Williams in Ferngully, you know, that probably also made them excited to see him. Maybe, maybe not. Disney was already a big name, so maybe that's not the case, right? So going back to this whole feud thing, you think Disney when did when Robin Williams said, I'm doing both movies, Disney was like, Okay, cool, no problem. False. Disney now decided to try and block uh the writer, the creators of Foreign Girlly from being able to make their movie. So whenever it's a smaller studio, this was it was a this is a Fox movie, a Fox studio movie, but like a small branch of it. Whenever they were um bidding on a space or about to go rent a space out, Disney would swoop in, undercut them, and rent out the space. Diabolical. So these guys are literally looking up. So when they found out what was happening, they found this brewery, and they like on the low was like, hey, like let's record here, let's let's make our movie here. It's not like an obvious, you know, studio recording spot, like let's just do it here. Well, Disney found out, and they tried to buy the brewery to shut them down, okay? Unsuccessful, they were really this is like corporate corporate espionage type of things happening.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, also yeah, who was telling them somebody they clearly have somebody on the inside because they ain't clearly some leaks happening, absolutely.
SPEAKER_06Ultimately, they were unsuccessful in buying the brewery, and the the creators of Fronga were able to finish their movie and put it out ahead of Disney's movie. But that's the back and forth between Robin Williams voicing these two characters in the same year. It was a big thing back in the day. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04The other thing I was gonna say here, and this is just a shout-out to Robin Williams because um I uh randomly, uh, you know, I you know I like to watch Tubi. I know you hate it, but I love Tubi. And you know, Tubi just plays movies, they don't care if you watch it or not. So randomly
Robin Williams’ Legacy And Personal Impact
SPEAKER_04I was getting ready for work or whatever, and RV came on, and you know, RV is a movie also starring uh Robin Williams. And oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06Ooh.
SPEAKER_04Oh, okay. And I mean, like, you could just see like how much joy he brought onto the screen just in his like just it didn't even seem like he was acting, which is crazy. Like he's just there and he just had this this type of um uh infectious laugh character, way about himself, whatever it is. And obviously, I just I got immediately sad to know that, you know, while he was bringing all that joy to people, he had his own struggles uh within himself where you know he ultimately decided to you know take his life and stuff. So uh yeah, it was just a huge loss to to us, um, and and the people who've been affected with him. Even obviously, I don't know the guy, yeah, never talked to the man, but yeah, you know, he's been you know a part of our lives for almost our entire lives, like you said, you know, a lot then came out.
SPEAKER_06I mean couple generations, yeah. Like he definitely formed us, you know. Um he was acting before then, Burcage and all that.
SPEAKER_04So I mean, yeah, he's been on the screen forever. So um yeah, it was just sad to see to lose that that kind of uh that kind of character because you know he he just did it j just so naturally. Um sorry to bring the world down, but yeah, it just reminded me of No.
SPEAKER_06I mean, it's I there was no way we were gonna talk about this movie and not spend a a sizable amount of time on Robin Williams, because even though his role was small in the movie, he just made he made the movie even more interesting. And he had this habit of because it's not like you're gonna go through his filmography and say he did all bangers, all hits, or anything, but he was always great in his movies. He would take a bad movie and make it watchable, you know. And of course, if he's in a good movie, then he's elevating it to being great. But Robin Williams is just GOAT legend, you know, so it is it is a shame that we lost him at uh a relatively young, not relatively at a young age, because he could still be making movies, doing animated stuff for for our children right now if he was still around, you know.
SPEAKER_03For sure, for sure, for sure, for sure.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, like yeah, so that that kind of stuff.
SPEAKER_04So let we gotta do it. Favorite Robin Williams movie, go.
SPEAKER_05Oh, I should have known this was coming.
SPEAKER_04He knew it was coming.
SPEAKER_05Oh favorite.
SPEAKER_04Man's got a lot.
SPEAKER_06It might I really want to say Dramanji for some reason.
SPEAKER_04Dramanji's a good one.
SPEAKER_06I I loved Dramanji. So the movies, when I think Robert Williams, I'll give you these movies that come to my mind like just off the rip, right? Um, and I know stuff like Good Morning Vietnam, you know, those are better great movies and all stuff, but that came in in 1987. As far as like shaping my childhood type of thing, it was um for and golly's obviously on my list, Aladdin's on my list, Mrs. Doubtfire, Dramanji. Like those movies. I saw Flubber too. Flubber is kind of uh, but those those are the ones that kind of that's where I go just immediately without like stopping to think about what else has he done. So I'm gonna say Dramanji for for now. Well, what do you what do you think?
SPEAKER_04Alright, even though like you said, this isn't the best movie he's done, but the most impactful, the most influential, a movie that I could watch like every, not every day, but time after time, it would have to be Jack for me.
SPEAKER_06Jack? Ooh, you you know Jack or no? I don't think no, I don't think I even saw that.
SPEAKER_03Oh my goodness. Oh shoot. Here it is.
SPEAKER_04Should have pulled that one out for you.
SPEAKER_06Oh, wow. Yeah, Ron Tomato scores 17%.
SPEAKER_02Like I said, it wasn't the best movie he's ever done. You did say that. You didn't know that.
SPEAKER_04The most influential movie that I've watched several times is Jack.
SPEAKER_06Yes. Yeah, yeah. Okay. But you know, if if we're doing um his best one, as far as what I consider his best one, is probably uh it's goodwill hunting.
SPEAKER_04Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I was gonna try to match you, but I don't want to embarrass us and say like two different movies. No, no, you're right. No, you know, absolutely goodwill hunting. Like, you cannot beat that one.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. That came out in 97, so I definitely didn't. I watched that more when I say more recently, I was an adult. I did not watch that, you know, um, even close to when it was released. Yeah. But that is such a great movie. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, Goodwill Hunting is definitely like top movie.
SPEAKER_06That's probably the real answer. Yeah, yeah. And then there's like Deadpool Society. Deadpool Society, 100%. Yes. 100%.
SPEAKER_03Yes.
SPEAKER_06All right. Robert Williams, rest in peace. Pouring out for him.
SPEAKER_00Heck yeah.
SPEAKER_04What are we pouring out for? Or light it up. Oh, light it up. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00I don't know. Okay.
SPEAKER_06Or or or sit there solemnly and reflect. Reflect. Whichever, whichever is. Sarah laughed in his honor. Alright.
Deforestation as a Thematic Concept
SPEAKER_06So let's get into the thematic discussions of the movie, right? Let's do it. And there's one big overarching theme. It's essentially about deforestation and pollution. So my question for you is did that message land for you? Did they land that for you?
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah, for sure. For sure.
SPEAKER_06How did they do?
SPEAKER_04Um I mean, uh, yeah, so that theme definitely was pretty prominent there. And it did land. Um, and it did in a nice way, where it was it I could I can understand it how it resonated with children and and and younger kids and younger people, and even the adults um that may have been watching with their children. Um, I think one of the things one of the scenes that really pop out to me that I remember is right after, you know, Zach and um Krista start to get close or whatever, um she wakes up and she hears like sawing noises or banging noises, and Zach, for whatever reason, is downstairs carving Krista into a freaking tree. First of all, I was like, I'm insensitive. Like, what the hell? Like a cycle. It was weird. It was so weird, but in a way, she like comes down, it's like, what are you doing? And he's like, What do you mean? It's your name, ha ha ha ha. You know, something like people would normally do, and he's and she touches it. She grabs his hand and grab and touches a tree, and she's like, Can't you feel this pain? And you could see it like glow red and something like that. And he's like, ah, you could feel the pain. So I thought it was a good, good introduction of the theme that even though it can't, even though you know, trees obviously can't speak, or at least they don't speak to us, um, they're alive, they're living, breathing things and organisms, and you know, they're important to uh an ecosystem, you know, generally the heart of the ecosystem. So um I thought it was a good I thought it did a very good job with that and and kind of introducing those themes in a way that is understandable to kids. Like, hey, these things are alive, and when we hurt when we damage them or break them, we hurt them in a way, you know.
SPEAKER_06An impactful scene for me were the scenes with magic in it, which I'm I have mixed feelings about magic. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_04She pissed me off. I'm gonna be honest. She pissed me off.
SPEAKER_06I was like, what the fuck she ultimately served no real purpose in the movie. She didn't do anything. They had this gorgeous, beautiful scene of her sacrificing herself.
SPEAKER_04Yes.
SPEAKER_06For what?
SPEAKER_04Oh my gosh. I don't know. Oh my gosh. Bro, I that is my note here. I was like, first, oh my, okay, I don't want to skip. I don't know. Go do your thing until we get to the end or whatever.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. We can dump on the seat. But let me, if I could focus on the positives of it.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, let's go to the positives.
SPEAKER_06She had two quotes. Uh she had three quotes that I feel were very impactful during this period, right? Okay. And the first is when when Krista came to talk to her uh about you know what's going on and everything, and Maggie delivers this line that says, All the magic of creation exists within a single tiny seed. Which that's very interesting when we talk about the environmental sense and how precious nature is and and all the the flora that surrounds us. But I took it a step further when you talk about the seed, you know, humans coming from a sperm, a seed, and an egg, and so forth, and just talking about creation as far as giving life and and being born into this world. And like I interpret that as a message about how we are all special, we are all have our own magic in some sort of way. You just have to have to find it, you know. And then she followed that up right before she heroically sacrificed herself. She says to Krista, look for the hero inside yourself, Krista. Look to the good and loving heart in you and all others. For just as the seed holds the power and magic of creation, so too do you and every other creature in this world. That line gave me chills. You know, and I thought it was very powerful, and it just kind of strengthened my my sense. Okay, now we're going beyond just nature, but we're talking about the human experience and the potential of the human being, and how there's innate goodness in each of us, and how we're able to doing you know great things once we we access it. Yeah. And then the last thing she says to Krista, right before she well, as she's fading away, she says, I love you, I will always be with you. We all have a power and it grows when it is shared. So now we're introducing the theme of love and loving other people and how powerful we are, united as one. I thought all this stuff was so beautiful, very profound, and it ultimately did not go a goddamn place because that fairy just disappeared into the ether, and that was it.
SPEAKER_00That was it.
SPEAKER_06She was gone. She was gone, you know. So I I have a little bit mixed feelings about it. Again, ultimately, I think the words and the message, and maybe I I could be overthinking it, but I I feel that that stuff is very powerful. Um did the movie pay that stuff off? I'm not entirely sure. I don't really think it did because it's it's a deforestation and pollution, it's an environmental story. That's what the story is about. So these these quotes that I just pulled don't necessarily deal with the main theme of the movie, but it is something nice. Like you're watching the f with your family, your kids, that is those are nice words and a nice message to convey, even though if the movie wasn't itself concerned with actually, you know, um, well, con wasn't concerning itself with that message in its entirety. So yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so I thought, so yes, I agree.
SPEAKER_01Um I like it, like I started with, I you know, Magic pissed me off in the beginning. At the end, because I was like, like you said, the second was almost unnecessary. Like it it didn't make any sense because at the end they still really didn't do anything.
SPEAKER_04Like Krista finally stood up and you know tried to do something, and then eventually they started up. I'm like, I feel like Maggie could have just done it herself. So I didn't really understand her own sacrifice to give it to everybody else. Also, I thought Maggie is, I guess, hundreds of years old because they, you know, she trapped the Hexus in the first place. So I'm like, where has she been doing all these years? Like, why has she been teaching people this whole time? Why'd she hold on to the information until the last second when they needed it and then was like, ah, you figure it out. Light. I'm like, what the f what is that? Like, why did Krista not know how to do things already? I mean, but Krista also was like, I guess, some kind of version of teenager. She's a shit student.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, she was bad.
SPEAKER_04In the beginning, like Matt Maggie's talking to her, she's obviously like, yeah, I don't care. I'm gonna go talk to uh uh Zip or is it Zip? No, not Zip. Pip Pip. Yeah, I'm gonna go mess with Pip or whatever. So I'm like, uh, you know, clearly she didn't care, which is fine. But there had to be other fairies there that cared and should have been trained up.
SPEAKER_06So no. Krista was a chosen one. I literally have that um I had that Krista is fairy Jesus died. Yeah, she got resurrected after they destroyed Hexus. Yeah, she was clearly the chosen one.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, she was the obviously the protector, the next person in line, sure. But it it just didn't like her sacrifice, though beautiful, it was a very nice scene, and it was done well to represent kind of death and and magic, I guess kind of making the ultimate sacrifice, which is also a nice theme of like sometimes you have to, you know, give of yourself for the bigger picture or the you know, the greater good as they like to push down our throat and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_00So um it was it was a nice theme and definitely you know a good way to again a good way to show to kids that that kind of like moral uh I don't say superiority, but almost almost like uh nah, I don't want to say superiority, that's that sounds bad, but the that kind of guidance in your moral compass, I'll just say that.
SPEAKER_04Um aside from that I and then also it did bring the theme as well as as well as with like the trees being cut down and they can't be brought back or it's hard to bring them back once we once we cut down on them. It also kind of brought up the theme of our elders and all the knowledge and wisdom that our elders hold, and you know, if we don't listen to them or at least use some of you know some of their guidance, all that knowledge is gone when once when you know once they're gone, you know. That's a good point. And you're like, well, I know they figured it is out 200 years ago, but I didn't bother to listen, so I have no idea. I guess I have to start over, and now you're going through the pains that they did, you know, 100 years ago, 200 years ago, whatever, whatever the answer is there. So um I think it was also a nice little like listen to your elders kind of conversation as well that helped.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, that that is absolutely right. And so they so see that there's some good things in the movie, you know, there's some good scenes, good thematic things. It's not just childish garbage, you know. It's no no, it can be impactful.
SPEAKER_04It was impactful. It was impactful. Like I said, once I took it out of like my adult mind, looking at a 90s, 30 million dollar animated movie, it definitely had it some nice themes and some good introductions to to some pretty difficult conversations to have, especially when you try to think about the 90s and what was coming before that with the 70s and the 80s, where they really didn't give a shit. You didn't you didn't have to wear a seatbelt. You didn't ever you could do a smoking, non-smoking section and just blow smoke into kids' face and good luck. Like you know, people would have cutting down for us like crazy. Just we were just pumping, industrial was just going. We're just pumping, pumping, pumping, like we need this, we need this, we need oil, we need trees, we need all this stuff, and there was no real concern for all right, what happens and when this is over, and then you know, you kind of or when you run out, because these resources aren't these resources took hundreds of years to grow, and now you're cutting them down. Like, what are you gonna do at that point? And then everyone's like, Oh yeah, well, I don't care, and so it's like you know, hey.
Comparing Eco-Films From Ghibli To The Lorax
SPEAKER_06So my my last point, um last discussion point in the movie before we start to rate it, is you know, did other films handle this message better? That's that's what I was interested in finding out, right? Because it is a children's movie, and themes like this often get repeated. So I I was able to find a list of animated movies or children's movies in general that have um environmental themes and stuff like Wally, for example, more recently comes up. Yeah, Free Willy from back in the day. Wally's great. Free Willie from back in the day, you know. But um, this and this is a Wikipedia chart I'm using, it had the specific theme of deforestation, you know, being involved. So I found four animated movies. Ironically, three of them came out within a year of another. Uh-huh. And then the fourth one is The Lorax, which came out in 2012. Oh, okay, yeah. Right. Yeah, yeah. The Lorax is good. Yeah, Lorrax is good.
SPEAKER_04I was surprised. I didn't see it when it was. Oh, you never saw it?
SPEAKER_06No, I saw it. No, I enjoyed it.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah, yeah. I didn't see it at first, and then it came out at some point. I was like, oh, this isn't bad at all. Lorax is pretty good.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Um so the Lorax uh Rotten Tomato score was and again, we're using Rotten Tomatoes. I understand it's an imperfect score, but that's what we have, right? The Lorax had a rotten tomato score of 53%. Okay, that's decent. Okay. So it's decent. Fern Gully released in 1992, its rotten tomato score was 67%. Oh pretty solid. Okay. That's a solid movie. The following year, I know. Justice for Fern Gully. Oh, the following year, Once Upon a Forest was released in 1993 to a and received a Rotten Tomato score of 22%. Not very good. It was produced by Hannah Barbera and distributed by 20th Century Studios. Just from like, I'm gonna just judge a book by its cover, because I obviously haven't read watched it, so I'm not gonna. But it looks like kind of like a knockoff kind of front gully. It came the year after, you know, it's it's dealing about a trio of of anthropomorphic mice or animals or whatever. They go on an expedition to find a cure for their poisoned friend. Dang, that's dark. Alright. So that got a 22%. The following year now, so this is three years in a row, we have animated movies dealing with forestation. We have a film called Palm Poco in 1994. That film is out of Studio Ghibli. Are you familiar with Studio Ghibli?
SPEAKER_00I am not.
SPEAKER_06You should become familiar with it because they make animated gold over there in Japan. Um, some of their popular ones are like Spirit of Way, is considered one of the greatest like anime or animated films, and it is like Ponyo and Kiki's delivery service and everything. But they have a lot of really good animated movies. So Studie Gate Studio Ghibli did Pompoco in 1994, and it received an 86% score on Rotted Tomatoes. And immediately I'm like, I need to watch this because why did it score so high? You know? So that's just a little fun fact. Anybody want to do some future watching and looking for this kind of thematic thing? Yeah, those are your options. Yeah, maybe stay away from Once Upon a Forest, but Fern Gully is always a win. The Lorax was a solid movie in 2012, and it's a Dr. Seuss, you know, film. Um, but Pompoco 1994. Let me read a quick little. It is about the film centers are on a colony of Japanese raccoon dogs living in the outskirts of Tokyo as a work to combat the growing deforestation of their home. So that's what the movie's about. So check it out, you know. Um, if you're if you're interested.
SPEAKER_04I think another movie. Oh, I was gonna say I think another movie that kind of not not not necessarily with deforestation, but with at least an outsider coming in and you know, trying to change things, a very natural nature, uh centered world was definitely coming to mind Coca Hontis is another one that came out that came out.
SPEAKER_06Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Um, of course they were talking about like colonization, which is even worse, but um, but I mean kind of similar things though.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, oh you know, Bambi shows up on that list too all the time, which I kind of forget that Bambi was kind of about like dealing with the environment as well. I'm gonna be very honest. I never think of poaching or so. I'm gonna be very honest.
SPEAKER_04I think I saw the beginning. I had the movie. I had the movie. I think I saw the beginning. What? Bambi's mom got killed, and I was like, oh, this is too much for me, and I was out.
SPEAKER_06Whoa, spoiler. No, I'm kidding. But that's crazy. That's crazy that you've never seen.
SPEAKER_04I don't even I never saw Bammy. I'm gonna be honest.
SPEAKER_06We're gonna do we're gonna talk about that after. That is that's never saw Bammy. Sorry.
SPEAKER_04Sorry, sorry, sorry. I'm gonna be honest with you. Wow. The other thing that I pointed out here is centering around that and like how easily um I wanna say minority, minority, uh, minority um civilizations accept outsiders, it just made me like roll my eyes. Because similar to Pocahontas with her guy, with you know, John, and then um with uh Krista and Zach, like she never seen this, she barely knew what a human was, and she was like, hey guys, look at everybody. And then at first, the the one day she brought him into when she brought him into Fern Gully and you know had all the other fairies there and everybody else, at first they were kind of like, mmm, what's that? Which is hilarious. Every time they saw this man, they was like, What's that? Which was killed.
SPEAKER_06Which he just doesn't have wings and pointy ears.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it was like he looks exactly like you, which I guess that's all you need, but whatever. What's that still sent me every time I heard it? But the other thing was like they were all conscious or a little uh weary of him, and then as soon as like he started like singing and dancing, they were like, ah, you're cool. And I was like, what the flips? Like, why? Why are you so easily accepting? And then I was like, I guess that's so note here which is kind of dark. I was like, uh, I guess this is what the Native Americans needed to not murder the colonizers immediately. Nah, nah, nah nah nah nah is apparently the to it. Because why didn't they? I still understand it.
SPEAKER_06That is super dark.
SPEAKER_04I know it's dark.
SPEAKER_06So you wanted this movie to also deal with xenophobia. Yeah, I did.
SPEAKER_04I did want it to as well. I mean, you might as well tackle it. Because because there was a couple times where I'm like, there's one scene where Pip tried to get Zach to leave with him. I was like, he was definitely gonna murder that guy. Like, I don't care what you say, but he was definitely gonna murder, like, drop him off the top of that beagle, that beetle and be like, oh, whoops, he fell. And then Krista came along and was like, oh, not now. And he's like, ah, you're
Ratings: Writing, Performances, Visuals, Music
SPEAKER_04lucky. Or whatever the hell he said.
SPEAKER_06All right, let's rate this thing. Um through our different arbitrary categories, not arbitrary. I mean plot and writing. What would you give that?
SPEAKER_00Okay. I would give it a solid four.
SPEAKER_06Four for plot and writing.
SPEAKER_00Four.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, that's fine. I had a five for that.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_06Um, acting and casting.
SPEAKER_00I mean, aside from Robin Williams.
SPEAKER_06I know. It's tough to score this.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Oh, two. I don't know. Damn!
SPEAKER_06So you give it a two?
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Two?
SPEAKER_06Okay. I get Robin Williams warrants a five. I give him another. I give it another five for that. That's fair.
SPEAKER_03But he only had like, like you said, he was supposed to get like what? You said 18 seconds. Like anyway.
SPEAKER_06I said eight minutes, but yeah. But they increased it because they realized how great he was, all right? Alright, fine. Uh production, visuals, and cinematography.
SPEAKER_04That's a good one. Um, you know, for the 90s, it you know, it was right along with like animation at that time. I like I said, I thought the scene with Maggie when she gave herself, or Maggie? Maggie? Maggie, when she gave herself up, was pretty, was actually very pretty and well done. So I'll give it a five.
SPEAKER_06I think I think I'm giving this thing fives across the board. Yeah, I give it a five as well. Music and sound. We did not talk too much about the music. You did say you liked it. Um Alvin Sylvestri did the score. I think this is our second Sylvestri movie. Um Alvin Sylvestri. Uh, I believe he did the score for The Predator.
SPEAKER_04I thought the movie, I thought the music was uh decent. Um I like that they had like like each song had kind of like a different theme. Like it had a um well, I don't know. Toxic Love was kind of like a burlesque theme. I don't know. No, that was kind of like you said, that was kind of sexual, but yeah. Uh then they had the hip-hop with the slug that was about to eat them. Or no, it wasn't a slug, it was uh um what was that Komodo Dragon? Komodo dragon, I think. Komoda dragon was trying to eat him, and they had the that scene reminded me of like the meme, you know, the meme with the like white lady who's like trying to teach hip-hop, and like have you seen that? Oh god, yeah, that's what it reminded me of.
SPEAKER_07Oh gosh.
SPEAKER_04But it was like, alright, well, you know, whatever. So I I like that they have different scenes kind of introducing different music, which again also very nice for kids. So, like, oh, what's that? And get interested in it. It had a little jazzy stuff, it had the you know, kind of classical, not kind of, it had the classical, and then like more the concert, um, band type thing.
SPEAKER_06So some pop stuff, yeah, some pop stuff.
SPEAKER_00So I think they were kind of eclectic, which is very nice, where it was just it just wasn't like one type of thing, uh, which is also needed.
SPEAKER_04So, I mean, for toxic love alone. Oh, I I actually just read up on this too, because I had to look it up a little bit. They said that um Tim Curry kind of improved some of Toxic Love too. I was like, what was he what was he thinking? But either way, um I give it a five.
SPEAKER_00I give it a five.
SPEAKER_06Oh, okay. I I give it a seven.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_06Just thinking, like as a kid, you would really be into these those songs, you know? Yeah. Um I gave it a seven.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, it was a bop.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. And then lastly, cultural impact. What would you give it for cultural impact? I'm very curious.
SPEAKER_04I so I gave it a nice solid seven.
SPEAKER_06You give it a seven?
SPEAKER_01I didn't.
SPEAKER_06Explain because nothing you've said indicates that you would give it that score.
SPEAKER_04What do you mean? I've been talking about how it introduced nice themes the whole time. Now, did it okay. I gave it a culture of impact because I don't, and I maybe, you know, I didn't do a ton of research on this, so take it with a grain of salt, I guess. But I didn't do but I think this is one of the first ones, first animated movies I could think that are really tackling this type of conversation and challenging kind of a norm. And I think it is, and I think that warrants a higher a higher rating. And not only within his movie itself, but when you explain, you know, how they were battling the big bad Disney, trying to stop them, they had to make the movie in a brewery, you know, Robin Williams is being challenged, and all those things.
SPEAKER_06I think it's his first animated film.
SPEAKER_04Introduction to Robin Williams as an animated character, you know, and after that springs off Aladdin, Happy Feet. Um what else was he? Anyway, either way, um almost said Captain Hook, but I was like, nah, that was real, my bad.
SPEAKER_06In addition to what you're saying too, uh Wayne Young, one of the creators of the movie, he did state that portions of the film's gross would be donated to Greenpeace, the Rainforest Foundation Fund, and the Sierra Club. So for that. Yeah, yeah. Okay, alright, good. I uh I I gave an eight. Look at you. Yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep. I can't let you score higher than me, but yeah. Um, all right. That's my movie. That's our movie. For Gully the Last Rainforest, not too bad. All right. Jill went from being like, what the hell is this? to enjoying a near dare I say respecting the film. So this was a successful episode.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, no, I respect it. You're right, you're right. It's successful. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04You had to do something to me that I hadn't loved it or anything, which I appreciate.
SPEAKER_06All right, that'll do it. That is our real talk and banter on Fern Gully, the last rainforest.
SPEAKER_04I don't even have like a song to sing like the other stuff, so I don't know what to do about it.
SPEAKER_06No, you could have. I expected you to learn the bat rap, actually. Or toxic gloves since you were talking so much about it. But I expect you to learn a rap.
SPEAKER_04I was going to do that, but then I was like, ah, that might be too much.
SPEAKER_06Well, it might have been just enough, but okay.
SPEAKER_04Well, like I said, acid ring coming down like egg chowming.
SPEAKER_06Episode title, maybe? I don't know. All right. That'll do it, everyone. Thanks for joining us. We will see you all next time.
Post Credit Scene
SPEAKER_06Come on now. Come on now. All right. Well, that'll do it. Those are our real take.
SPEAKER_00Real talk?
SPEAKER_06You know I screwed that up in the last episode.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, bad.
SPEAKER_06Like I'm gonna have to re record that and like fix I so annoyed. Yeah, I read I screwed it up and um I was like, what the hell did I do? Anyway, uh