...Mean Bastards You Need to Hang!: The Hateful Eight (2015)

Snow, paranoia, and eight strangers who all feel guilty of something. We go back to Quentin Tarantino’s The Hateful Eight and review it the way it begs to be watched: as a chaptered Western mystery thriller where every story might be a lie and every smile might be a setup. From the stagecoach standoff to the uneasy “welcome” at Minnie’s Haberdashery, we follow how the tension keeps tightening even when the movie slows down on purpose. 

We talk performances first because they are the engine. Samuel L. Jackson’s Major Marquis Warren runs the room with patience and menace, Walton Goggins’ Chris Mannix swings between charm and threat, and Jennifer Jason Leigh makes Daisy Domergue funny, brutal, and weirdly unbreakable. Then we dig into Tarantino’s choices: the heavy “telling” instead of “showing,” the sudden narrator moment, the mid-movie flashback, and why the movie still feels cold and beautiful thanks to its cinematography and blizzard atmosphere. 

The second half turns into pure escalation: the poisoned coffee, the cabin turning into a crime scene, and a final negotiation where money, pride, and survival collide. We also bring trivia, including the Red Apple Tobacco callback and the infamous guitar smash that was way more real than it should have been. Hit play, drop your take on whether the Lincoln letter is truth or tactic, and if you enjoy the show, subscribe, share it with a Tarantino fan, and leave a review.

Transcript

Welcome And Film Setup

SPEAKER_00 0:29

Hello and welcome to the Real Talk and Banter Podcast, the movie podcast where we discuss and review films that are at least a decade old. I'm Omari Williams.

SPEAKER_02 0:41

And I'm Jay Richardson.

SPEAKER_00 0:43

Today we are discussing the Hateful Eight, the Quentin Tarantino film.

SPEAKER_04 0:51

Woo!

SPEAKER_00 0:52

Psh psh. That was like a cowboy shooting gun.

SPEAKER_02 0:59

I didn't know what that was, but okay. What? Yeah. Oh, I mean, yeah. Oh. Okay. Okay. Alright. To infinity and beyond.

SPEAKER_00 1:10

Nope. That's not, that's not, that's not it. That's not even the cowboy from that movie. Yeah, well, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:17

You know. Okay. Okay. Okay, let's talk about that for a second. No, let's talk about it for a second. If he thought he was real, why did he also freeze? Like, what is that? Why was he running around? Like, I don't understand. Anyway, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 1:33

That is one of life's mysteries, okay? All right. All right. And um smarter people than I have tried to explain that. So I will not um make any attempts. All right, fine. Okay. This is a mystery. I've already moved on from that. This is this is a Western mystery

Favorite Characters And Best Bits

SPEAKER_00 2:01

thriller by Quentin Tarantino with an extensive cast of people. We have Samuel Jackson, Kurt Russell, Jennifer Jason Lee, Walton Goggins, Demian Bascher, Tim Roth, Michael Madsen, Bruce Dern, James Parks, and Chatting Tatum. Uh quite an extensive cast. Do you have a favorite um cast member of the movie?

SPEAKER_02 2:33

Ooh, you know, uh I would have to go with my boy. I mean, you mean just in general or from the movie itself?

SPEAKER_00 2:42

From the movie and from the movie specifically, not their body of work. Okay, cool, cool, cool. Just from this movie.

SPEAKER_02 2:48

I mean, okay. So in I'm I don't think my answer changed very much anyway, but still. Um, I think, you know, Samuel L. Jackson, you know, pretty much.

SPEAKER_00 2:57

I know. Pretty much. That's hard. Okay. Who's your favorite non-Samuel Jackson character? Because you're right. That's tough. That's tough. You're right. You're right. Non-Samu L, who's your favorite?

SPEAKER_02 3:07

Uh, you know, dang. Who do I like the most? I you know. I say. So I like Daisy Domergue because she was getting knocked the hell out, and somehow she stayed up. I was like, oh, she got a chin.

SPEAKER_00 3:27

She she did do a really good job. Yeah. Um her character was pretty funny. Yeah. Oh. Even like when they would when she would like uh echo some of the things everybody else was saying, or her delivery was amazing. Yeah. They have that bit where the door black blows open from the blizzard, you know? And um they're like telling everyone, shut the door, shut the door. And she's just like yelling just random shit. Like, I don't know if you were paying attention to that, but they're like, hey, you gotta shut the door. She's like, You gotta shut the door. And they're saying, You gotta use two, you gotta use two. She's repeating what they're saying. Yeah. Oh my god, that was funny. Yeah, that was funny.

SPEAKER_02 4:09

Yeah, yeah. I was trying to like, all right. So I've seen it, so like I said, I've seen this movie, but I've seen it just from the perspective of just like, I'm just watching to like, you know, enjoy. But this is the first time I'm actually like watching to like, hmm, what is this? What does this mean? What does it mean? What does this mean? I still never figured out why the double thing. Like, I know like when they first came in, she was also like shouting who was with her. And I'm like, okay, she's doing that because you know, she's trying to let them know who else is there, because it was only anticipating for her, you know, probably the stagecoach person and and um and the hangman to be there, and they have some additional passengers. So I'm like, all right, that makes sense. But yeah, that scene where she just literally shouting, close the door, use two uh um uh wood pieces of wood. Uh I didn't I didn't get why. Did you did you figure that out?

SPEAKER_00 5:02

No, I just I just think she was I think she's nuts. I just was just trying to annoy um John Ruth. I think that was it. Like I think a lot of her motivations were yes, trying to escape, but two, just just fucking record uh Kurt Russell's character the whole time.

SPEAKER_02 5:22

Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, it's gonna be I I I feel like there's some meaning. I just couldn't figure it out. I just didn't have the film intelligence to say there was something else going on there.

SPEAKER_00 5:32

Okay. That's we're gonna discuss that at the end of the recording because I have questions and comments about that as well. Um to answer my own question, um Walton Goggins, baby. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Chris Mannix.

SPEAKER_02 5:47

I was gonna I was gonna say him too. I was gonna say him too. He was he was good too. I it's it's a talk between him and her as uh you know, stealing the scene, non-Samuel Jackson.

SPEAKER_00 5:58

Just yes, every time. And just like to be like, God, we have Walton Goggins and Samuel Jackson just sharing the screen right now for extended periods of time. It was just man, yeah. Chris Manics, well, he is my favorite non-Samuel Jackson uh character for sure, for sure. Yeah. Um as we said, as we all know, this is a Quentin Tarantino film. He has 11 films, 10 films. Total? Well, yeah, not counting yeah, as far as like his major releases, yeah. That's what I'm seeing. Okay. Did you think it was more?

SPEAKER_02 6:43

Yeah, I thought it was more, but you know. That's fine.

SPEAKER_00 6:47

Yeah, there's there's some like smaller projects, but as far as his like main um releases, there's ten of them, right? And that also includes does it? It includes Kill Bill being split in two. So out of ten, so we're gonna say ten. So out of the ten ten films, where do you think the hateful eight ranks as far as box office? So the box office numbers on that the budget was between 44 and 62 million dollars, and it made 161.2 million worldwide. Where do you think this ranks in um just Quentin Tarantino films? Where does it rank?

SPEAKER_02 7:29

Out of 11.

SPEAKER_00 7:31

10 out of 10.

SPEAKER_02 7:32

10. Uh I probably put it at five.

SPEAKER_00 7:37

Ooh, very close. It is at number six.

SPEAKER_02 7:40

Yeah, I was saying five or six.

SPEAKER_00 7:42

All right, so in uh true Tarantino fashion, the movie is super long. It is it has a three-hour and something minute uh runtime. Yeah. Um, yeah, it's it's it's pretty, pretty long.

SPEAKER_02 7:55

But did it feel long to you? Not really. Not really. No, no, it didn't. Neither me. Neither I.

SPEAKER_00 8:04

Neither oh, excuse me. I'm speaking of Queen's English on the classic.

SPEAKER_02 8:09

I mean, you know, I do watch the Bridgerton. The Bridgerton.

SPEAKER_00 8:12

So the Bridgerton. You know, I've never seen Bridgerton.

SPEAKER_02 8:15

Jesus Christ. This is why nobody likes two men. What the fuck?

SPEAKER_00 8:24

Alright. Anyway. Um yeah, so he also uh broke it up into six different chapters. So let's just tackle each chapter, just talk about you know what happens,

Chapter One: Stagecoach Suspicion Sets The Tone

SPEAKER_00 8:35

how we felt about each chapter as we approach, make our way to the thrilling conclusion. So chapter one is last stage to Red Rocks, and that's where we have Warren, uh, Warren Mark, no, Major Marquis Warren, who is Samuel Jackson's character, mix up with Kurt Russell's character, John the Hangman Root. He has Daisy Domergue in the carriage as uh who is played by Jennifer Jason Lee. He has her in custody, and they're on their way to Red Rock, the ton of Red Rock, so she can be hanged. She had a bounty on her head for $10,000, and uh John Root captured her, and he's he's very protective of his bounty. $10,000 is a lot of money. That is a lot.

SPEAKER_02 9:30

I'm surprised it was paying that much.

SPEAKER_00 9:31

Like, he's just well, they explain it later on, right? Because of who she's affiliated with, you know.

SPEAKER_02 9:37

But I mean, yeah, I'm saying even with like she could have like murdered half a town. I'm surprised it was still paying $10,000 for that. I don't like here's $500. I mean, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 9:47

Well, so that is terrible. There's no incentive. You have professional bounty hunters out here, you know, because I mean, Warren is a bounty hunter as well, who he bumps into, so that's why he's all you know, like shady about shady, but scrutinizing him, like, oh, what are you doing? Like, why are you out here, you know, on the road? And I will say that John's paranoia made me paranoid because I'm like, shit, he's about to get jumped, or like, oh, these guys are about to gang up on his ass. But nah, he was just paranoid, you know. Sometimes paranoia is just paranoia. But um in true Quentin Tarantino fashion, um we have no recourse for uh political correctness or anything, everything is error um realistic, and we have just N-word dropped like fucking crazy. Uh is that word for you? Are you like, oh, whatever, or like how's how that work work for you in the movie?

SPEAKER_02 10:51

I mean, you know, uh for Tarantino himself, or uh Tarantino obviously obviously likes the word because like every movie he drops has it in there. But also, I mean it's appropriate to the time. It'd have been weird if you didn't hear it. It'd have been kind of like weird. So that is true. It is what it is. I just kind of blur over it. It doesn't add or take away from me. It's just it is what it is.

SPEAKER_00 11:16

Yeah, yeah. But um, yeah, I agree with that assessment.

SPEAKER_02 11:21

The thing that really got me is I mean, okay, so where you got into like the immediate distrust, which was like off off rip. I mean, dude, like you said, $10,000, especially what is what is this time period? 18 something, 1890?

SPEAKER_00 11:39

1877.

SPEAKER_02 11:40

77. So after the Civil War, okay.

SPEAKER_00 11:43

After the Civil War.

SPEAKER_02 11:44

Okay, so I mean, yeah, it's yeah, 10. I mean, whatever. Even if it was in 1990s, still would have been $10,000 is nothing to sneeze at. So I I I also would have been like, uh, this is weird. What are you doing here in this blizzard? But a man's had three bodies with him, so I mean, you know, I think bodies were worth a good amount too.

SPEAKER_00 12:02

So you know what? You're right. I'm taking this ten thousand dollars for granted. Like, you're right, in 1877, um, that's a shit ton of money.

SPEAKER_02 12:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:14

My thing is though, is as the movie goes on, you kind of realize that John Ruth, he's not too bright, is he? Because he uh go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 12:28

Why you say that? I have my reason why he's not, but why you say that?

SPEAKER_00 12:32

He's I don't understand how you're that paranoid, but also that gullible and trusting, right? And just the lack of like he's not inquisitive of all at all. He's just said $10,000 and he's like, Oh yeah, I'm gonna get that bounty. And like you don't do any research, you're not like why you're not wondering why is there a $10,000 bounty on this person? Like, that is so much damn money. You're rich, you know. Um, at that that in that time period, and the fact that he didn't question it, like everything is being revealed to John, which is crazy because he's he is portrayed at his badass, he's a legend, he's the hangman, everybody knows who he is. But everyone he encountered, he's like, Oh, who's that? Oh, what's that? Oh, where is that? Oh, you're a part of what now? I'm like, dude, like, how are you getting by in life? Ask some more questions. So that's why I'm like, yeah, he's he wasn't too bright. Would you what what were your thoughts on that?

SPEAKER_02 13:27

I mean, so okay. Wait, so Daisy Domergue. Yeah, was that the that's the name she used, right?

SPEAKER_00 13:38

Correct.

SPEAKER_02 13:39

So he knew or he should have known that she was part of the gang. I mean, maybe he didn't know that he was like her sister and like I I guess practically second in command, but you know, maybe he thought maybe that was a girlfriend or something. But yeah, $10,000 for like a whore is a lot. So yeah, he should have definitely based on the price, been like, Yeah, you're obviously more important than I thought or than I think. And I guess he tried, I mean, it's not like he could like gool it. So I guess he was just going off of word of mouth, like, all right, but I don't know. I was saying that I would have killed her. Like, I don't have time to be dragging around this like could runaway body. Like, I would have killed her and just dragged her into the room.

SPEAKER_00 14:23

She's obviously dangerous.

SPEAKER_02 14:24

Yeah, she's dangerous. She could take a hit like a motherfucker. Like, I'm just like, listen, I'm I'm killing you. And I'm just gonna drag your dead body back to Red Rock, just like, just like what Samuel L. Jackson um was doing with those three bodies. It's like, yeah, I'm not I'm not bothering with you and having to feed you and like no, no, that's way too much. Even if I like knocked off a thousand, I would have took the nine thousand. Like, anyway, here's your body, leave me alone.

SPEAKER_00 14:49

Well, that's the other thing. It it didn't sound like because it literally said dead or alive, so he wouldn't have lost any money for killing.

SPEAKER_02 14:55

He wouldn't have lost anything.

SPEAKER_00 14:57

He's a sicko. He just wants to hang, I don't know, and he gave this like this like um justification, like, you know, why deprived the hangman? And you know, that's like that's the the the fits in width for your crimes and all this bullshit. But it's like, nah, dude, like you're getting off on this. Because he even asked Warren, like, do you stick around and watch? And Warren's like, first of all, like I'm not bringing fucking life people to hang. And second of all, nah, why? Like, I just I get my money and I'm out. I'm not here hanging around, freaking getting a heart on watching people get hanged. So yeah, he is he's a bit of a sicko, too. 100%.

SPEAKER_02 15:34

Yeah, definitely. Definitely. He definitely had some, and he came also my excuse about, oh, he he wants the hangman to like the actual hangman to get some money too, and I'm like, okay. I'm sure there's other people.

SPEAKER_00 15:45

Why deprive him of his like? Why deprive him?

SPEAKER_02 15:47

I'm like, nah, you just you just you're just getting off

Cinematography That Makes You Cold

SPEAKER_02 15:50

on it because unnecessary. But either way, whatever. Aside from that intro, I just want to comment on the way the the like sprawling uh stage coach winter scenes are shot. It's gorgeous. It is absolutely gorgeous, absolutely beautiful, like holy shit. Like, oh my god. Like, hats off to Tarantino. This is what you look for for Tarantino to just kind of bring like literally make you feel like you're sitting there. Uh like you're in the stage, Goj, or you're like, I don't know, sitting on the side watching it go by.

SPEAKER_00 16:27

Listen, I was sitting there, I mean, my fan was on me, but I'm like, I'm getting cold watching this. Oh, damn. Like, just like the portrayal of that blizzard and that snowy weather. I I set out, I was like, I'm getting this I'm getting I'm cold. What the hell is going on? He really got you. It was it was beautifully shot. It was, and every now and again they would give us these um gratuitous landscape shots just to show like look at the scenery, you know. Man, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:54

Well I can't imagine the cost to do that shit. Like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 16:58

Oh, listen, you don't have to imagine because the state of Colorado paid some of the um for some of the m movie to be shot. Oh, really? Yeah, so it was shot like outside of Telluride, um which is in Colorado. And um I think the state of Colorado put up like five million dollars to go towards shooting the film. Wow. And there were some ranch or something that was leased. So yeah, he definitely got some help with putting this uh I guess um this was like a you know scra you scratch my back and scratch yours type of deal um with Colorado. I don't know what Colorado got out of it. I didn't get that far, but I did see that Colorado, the state of Colorado, put up five million dollars to assist in making the film.

SPEAKER_02 17:45

Okay. I mean I guess. Yeah, yeah, shit. Yeah. I yeah, I couldn't imagine what it would what it I figured it'd be extensive for those kinds of shots. Um, you know, like horse trainers, you know, you're worried about the weather and you know, blah, blah, blah. So I couldn't imagine that cost, but I guess Colorado wanted to have their their mountains uh shot, I guess. I don't know. Because it didn't make me want to go visit Colorado, so I'm not really sure what they got out of that, but I mean it was beautifully done either way. Um like so let's let's get into it a little bit. So you're you have this pseudo pseudo dangerous you know what it is? If he was if if uh Daisy Dom Domagru was a man, it probably would have gone differently. But he he was a woman. She was a sorry, she was a woman. I think that's what he underestimated, you know, her because of that. Like he wasn't really taking her serious.

SPEAKER_00 18:49

He wasn't. But I got the sense that man or woman, like, he's not he's still not killing them, like he wants them to hang, you know. So yeah, that part is different.

SPEAKER_02 18:59

I just feel like his guard and his like wherewithal or like those like his spidey senses would have been tingling a little bit more if I was a man.

SPEAKER_00 19:10

Because he did like uncuffers so she could eat and all that bullshit. Yeah, he wasn't good enough for a man, absolutely not. I I agree with that. I agree with that. Um, all right, Samuel Jackson. Right, we he enters the scene and I don't know. Samuel Jackson is so fucking cool. Like he's just a cool guy, you know. He just that that initial exchange, like he's so annoyed at at John for making him go put his pistols down and all this stuff or whatever, and man, I don't know. This isn't Samuel's Samuel has better, not better, but he has he has better scenes later on, or scenes that ask more of him later on, but just an introduction to him, where you know he has the three dead bodies, his three bounties, you know, ready, and it's just like he's an old man, like he's an old man in this, and he's out there, he's a uh veteran from the Union Army, right? And um, I guess it's more in chapter two where we get his some of his backstory, right? Yes. Yeah, chapter two.

SPEAKER_02 20:16

I mean yeah, I so I I messed up. I did not like take notes via chapters. Oh, no, that's fine. I took notes pretty much based on like the significant thing that happened. So it might have like multiple significant things happening within a chapter. So I can't I don't remember if in chapter two if they were still in the stage code or not.

SPEAKER_00 20:37

They were because chapter two is where they picked

Chapter Two: Chris Mannix Enters The Carriage

SPEAKER_00 20:40

up uh one of my favorite characters, Chris Mannix, right? So we can just move on. Chapter two is Son of a Gun. That's where we meet Chris Mannix, who claims that he's a sheriff of Red Rocks. John does not believe him for shit.

SPEAKER_02 20:52

I didn't believe him either, to be honest. I don't know, I still don't know if he is or is not. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 20:58

Walton Goggins comes in slick talking. Did you watch Justified at all? No, I did not. Oh my gosh, man. And that's that alone is why I'm a big Walton Goggins fan. Um, Justified with Timothy Oliphant and Walton Goggins, amazing stuff. But he comes in slick talking, and he's like, I don't believe you for one, but he's like on an off chance that this guy is telling the truth. I can't leave the sheriff out here to die, you know? Right, and when he throws him the the the manacles to to cough himself, Goggins is like, no, he's like absolutely not, okay. Right. Uh I just I literally my note here is Walton Goggins is great, okay? And when when he came in the the carriage, he's like, You guys want to make snow angels together? I don't know why. Like he was just it was so funny. Like his he went back and that character went back and forth from being like a like light, borderline, bumbling idiot to dark as hell. It was yeah, and he kept. Dancing between it and like literally, and I don't mean from like scene to scene, I mean like within a story he's telling, it's like well, all shucks, you know, and then it's like well no, my daddy, this, and it's like, what the fuck? This got so intense. Yeah, so Chris Maddox knows every he knows everyone, he knows everything, right? He knew everybody.

SPEAKER_02 22:20

Yep, this man was like freaking Luben. It was just like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_01 22:24

Why do you even know this? You mean to tell me that you're uh I'm like, what the fuck is there?

SPEAKER_00 22:30

Shout out to Lu Ben.

SPEAKER_02 22:33

Is there a freaking like library that you're learning all these people? Because like how you know all these folks. Like, I get it, like word of mouth, but damn, everybody?

SPEAKER_00 22:42

I know because how is news traveling? Literally has to travel by word of mouth. But he had he had the baseball card for every single person.

SPEAKER_02 22:49

He had the baseball card and exactly what they did, when they did this man was he he did it.

SPEAKER_00 22:55

Well, except for Jody Dormergoo. He did not have Jody's card because he did not know who the Dormer Goo gang was. Yeah, he didn't know. That was the only thing he didn't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But everything else, he was on point.

SPEAKER_02 23:07

Which is like, that's that's why it kind of danced between like, was he really the sheriff, or did he just sit out to get on the stagecoach? Because like I feel like I feel like no. I'm gonna stick with it. I mean, if he is, okay, great, but I'm gonna stick with he's not. He wasn't the sheriff. He just said that to get on the stagecoach because you know, he knew that if he didn't, they were gonna leave him. What do you what do you think?

SPEAKER_00 23:32

By the end, I believed him. I believed him that he was indeed the sheriff. I I just think I I think his um that knowledge, that extensive knowledge he showed us. Oh my gosh. I don't know. I mean, I guess if you're a pretty good criminal, you have a Right.

SPEAKER_02 23:50

I think he was a slick talker and just like just a con man, just had it. He was just that guy.

SPEAKER_00 23:57

Yeah, I I'm gonna say he was. I'm gonna I believe I believe in Chris Maddox, alright? I'm I'm gonna say he was. Um but the the he starts off telling asking um John Root, do you know who like because so Warren and John had met before in the past, like passing each other. This is post-war during their bounty hunter days. But Mannix went back to the war days, the Civil War days, and he's like, Oh shit, nah, this dude, you know, he he was um the the the toughest, you know, one out there or whatever. And he he told him about how there was uh was it 50,000 or 30,000 bounty on his head at one point? Yeah, and um, you know, because he can't remember if it's 50 or 30, but yeah. Yeah, he escaped from this prison and um he was hunted, like he was hunted by by all these soldiers and everything, and it it was just like Manic starts off telling the story, kind of like making you think he's like idolizing this guy.

SPEAKER_01 25:02

Oh, this guy's so awesome, he's so good, he did all these things, and then it's but wait, uh didn't you actually kill all your guys? You're like, ah shit.

SPEAKER_00 25:12

It got so dark. I had to rewind that scene a few times because that subtle that shift where you didn't even realize that it's like, oh, it's like you're walking down the street and all of a sudden you're in a dark alley, and I'm like, Well, how the hell did I get here? And Mannix didn't.

SPEAKER_03 25:26

And all of a sudden you heard the saxophone playing, you're like, ah shit, they're about to get me, don't they? Ah shit, it's my time. You're like, damn. It was so bright a second ago. What happened?

SPEAKER_00 25:39

Now it's all but darkness, freaking doom and gloom. So Mannix talked about how his daddy fought in our so okay, so I'm here singing Maddox praises, but Mannix fought for the South, though, right? That's what I'm getting. Yeah, he definitely did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so he's he's racist as shit, but hey man, who wasn't at this in this time?

SPEAKER_02 25:57

But yeah, I mean, even North Soldiers were racist. I mean, it is what it is.

SPEAKER_00 26:01

Correct, yeah. So, but but they painted this picture, and you know, one of the things with with movies, right, where you criticize the movie, the whole thing is show don't tell. And this movie does a lot of telling and not showing, but they tell it in such an expertly way, like it's so interesting the way they tell it that because I feel like in a in a worse movie, when Chris Mannix was telling the story about how um Warren, you know, escaped this prison and set it on fire and did all these things, you would be upset. Like, well, let me just show me that. But it was about the storytelling, which is important because you don't know who to believe in this movie, you know? So it really focuses on the tales that people are telling. And instead of showing you, it's an intentional thing. A lot of um movies they don't show you because they're lazy. They don't want to write the scene, they don't want to script it out, they don't want to shoot the scene. Ah, let's just have somebody tell it and we can move on from it. But they intentionally did not show a lot of these things because you have to kind of wonder like, well, like, is this over exaggerated? Is this true? Like, so I thought I was massive storytelling right there.

SPEAKER_02 27:13

No, I didn't I didn't have an issue. Like you said, it didn't, even though it's three hours like three hours long or two two hours 57 minutes, some shit like that, but it still didn't feel like that because you're wrapped into the story almost immediately. Like from the from the beginning scenes of the stage code and wrapped you in, made you feel cold, even though you were in the middle of Caribbean, and it is like you're just immediately wrapped in, and then the tension of um the immediate it's not yeah, yeah, pretty much, pretty much almost immediate, if not immediate, just distrust of each other. Like even though, I mean, you had the north versus the south, you have black versus white, you have man versus woman, like you had all these different um dynamics happening in this small little stage coach already, where you're kind of sucked in, like who's the bad guy? Who's the good guy? It you couldn't really tell yet. Like it was just like um because you know you you know, our our human nature is we want to root for the good guy. We want to know who the good guy is, like, but then you're almost shoved into wait, who the who is the good guy here?

SPEAKER_00 28:19

Like who what uh you know, so are you a big Western person? Like you watch a lot of westerns at all, sir.

SPEAKER_02 28:27

Absolutely not. I'm gonna be very honest with you.

SPEAKER_00 28:30

No, very honest. Fuck a Western, right? However, I know I do know I do know like very basic like Western tropes, right? And one of the basic ones are white hats versus black hats, right? Yeah, all these fuckers were wearing black hats. Yeah except for one who was trying to trick us that he was good, right? But they're all wearing black hats, and it's like that's your tip off that like this is not gonna have some nice happy ending, you know. Like you can't you're not supposed to trust anyone, like they're all criminals, period, you know, or or less than upstanding citizens, right? Because technically that bounty hair is not a criminal, but you know, they've all done some things that you can't really trust them, and that that was also very excellently done. Yeah. So after so now we have we did not mention OB. That's who's driving the stagecoach. So this is a six-horse stagecoach. So our character count is up to five. We have John, we have Daisy, we have Warren, we have Chris Mannix, and OB's been driving the stagecoach, God bless him, through the snow this whole time. So all five

Chapter Three: Minnie’s Haberdashery New Players

SPEAKER_00 29:40

of them pull up to Minnie's Haberdashery, which is the title of chapter three. And so now we gotta change the scenery. So now we're no longer outdoors. Now, pretty much the rest of the movie is gonna take place inside this haberdashery. This sorry, I'm laughing because I remembered when Maddox walked in and he said, Oh, haberdashery. It was ironic, or they were lying. Like, that's not this is not a fucking haberdashery. Like, I don't know what this is, but this is not very nice. It's it's a freaking shack. There's no, I guess there's like maybe there were cottage they might have pulled out, but it's just like a big, it's like a lodge, you know, there's no real separate rooms or anything. And he's like, what the hell is this? I mean, it looked cozy to me, but I mean, whatever. Oh no. Ah, that there's no way they were properly warm in that place, all right. So when they pull up. They pull up and they're greeted by Senor Bob. Senor Bob. That's who he introduced himself as. And um, so John Root not leaving Daisy out of his sight, he's he goes inside to the the haberdashery while he leaves Mannix and Warren to help OB um tie up the horses into the the barn, the stable. Uh-huh. Um so this chap this chapter, chapter three, is very long, um, but it's it's kind of broken up in some different parts. So you have what's happening inside the haberdashery where we meet the rest of the main cast, essentially. Inside the haberdashery is Oswaldo Mowbray, who's played by Tim Roth. You have Joe Gage, played by Michael Madsen, and you have General Sanford Smithers, played by Bruce Dern. So those three guys are inside, just cooling out, chilling, you know. There's this funny bit that because the door is broken, which we will find out how it got broken, but the door is broken, so you have to nail it shut, uh, or else the wind is gonna blow it open. So John is kind of sizing up the room and trying to he's paranoid, he doesn't trust anyone, he's trying to figure out who these people are and everything. The the whole big thing, too, is Mindy, Minnie, sorry, Minnie is nowhere to be found. And Bob said, well, Minnie and her husband, I can't remember his name, Kevin or something. Bob, no, Kevin.

SPEAKER_02 32:14

My name is Sweet Dave. Dave, Dave, Jesus Christ Dave, sorry, Dave.

SPEAKER_00 32:18

He said that Minnie and Dave left, they went over the mountain to go visit, you know, some uh family member, uh, Minnie's mom or whatever. Yeah, Minnie's mom, yeah. Yeah. So John Ruth is inside and he's like, all right, cool. Well, this is me, this is my prisoner. Everyone back the fuck up. Over in the stable, Warren is a little suspicious. Yes. And he starts to ask OB some questions, you know, about Minnie and so forth. So now this is where we start to see Samuel Jackson start to cook, right? And um, he asked him a few questions, like, oh, and Minnie left you in charge, and this, that, and the other. And uh Bob, there's his great lemon. Bob's like, it sounds like you're calling me a liar. And he's like, It not yet. It does sound that way. No, he said, he said, at first he says, It does sound that way, huh? But I haven't done it yet, you know? Yeah, yeah. And um, you know, he's like, I'm just you're asking questions to see what's going on, and and he asked him a bunch of questions that if you really knew Minnie, that you know, you would know. And Obi kind of passes, you know, but Warren never fully trusted, right?

SPEAKER_02 33:29

Yeah, absolutely not.

SPEAKER_00 33:31

How did you feel the addition of these four characters um changed the dynamic of the movie? Uh, what would you feel about that?

SPEAKER_02 33:43

Um, so I feel like in this, so where we're stopping right here. I don't think the dynamic movie changed very much. Like, you kind of broke it down already. Like, John um was still very distrustful of everybody. Um, like you said, you kind of start seeing the wheels turn. Like um um Major Warren obviously knows something is wrong, but he doesn't know exactly yet, and he doesn't want to like be shooting blind right now because he don't know what's going on either, but he knows something is off. He's obviously been there, he obviously knows you know the the layout a little bit there, so and like this is you know the 1800s, like it's not much shit that happens, like things don't be different, it just is what it is until people die. So yeah, yeah, so it's like okay, so his suspicion is starting to make me feel even more suspicious because at first I was just like, okay, I like I wasn't suspicious, I wasn't suspicious at all. Like it was just like, these people need a ride, whatever, it's just happening. But but uh I'm now I'm just following along and being very attentive to um Major Warren because he's like hmm, something's fishy, but he ain't putting it, he ain't like like verbose about it, he ain't shouting about it. He's just like, I need to collect my evidence, I need to understand what's happening, and then when the time is right, I will drop it all on you, and uh, you know, you guys suck because I knew it and you didn't. But like, nah, at this point, like nothing's really different or like you know, yeah, nothing's really happening right now. It's just a slow, very slow cook, but it it feels slow, and it can be a little like okay, what's happening, but also it isn't bad. It isn't bad. It feels like it feels like you're watching a play.

SPEAKER_00 35:34

I mean it's good acting, you know.

SPEAKER_02 35:36

Yeah, it's good acting, yes. You feel like you feel like you're watching a play where you know they they move out and like everything is happening on this one space right now, and this is all you have to focus on, on this one set. So like I'm I'm still very engaged. I'm still very like, okay, what's next? What's next? What's next? So I like it.

SPEAKER_00 35:53

Absolutely. And so a little bit on the other characters that were inside, Oswaldo Mowbray, um, he identifies himself as the hangman, the same hangman on his way to Red Rocks, you know, that's gonna hang Miss Domago, Daisy. Um he's like, okay, and he shows him his ID and everything, and they exchange papers with John, I mean, and he said, Okay, cool, there's a hangman. Then there's Joe Gage. Joe Gage, he did not do a good job of not being suspicious.

SPEAKER_03 36:24

Like, he was just brooding in the corner, and it's like he really could have been out of the he's he's the only character who really could have not been there, and I'd be like, it wouldn't have changed the dynamic at all.

SPEAKER_00 36:36

Like it was like, okay, whatever. It it would have made you feel less that something was going on, but he was just like given like something's up with this guy. Like, who what is his deal? And then there was General Stanford Smithers, yeah, yeah, yeah. Super old dude fought in the Civil War, and uh we get a nice exchange uh where of course Maddox comes in. Maddox is like, General Sanford Smithers? Right. I was like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_02 37:08

Is there a picture of him somewhere? Even if you've heard the name, how do you know what he looked like?

SPEAKER_00 37:13

Like, what the fuck? Like, what what distinguishing features? Like, I don't he's just looking at some old white dude.

SPEAKER_03 37:19

Like, how the old freaking Colonel Sanders guy here, and you're like, oh my god, Jesus? You're like, what? He's he's like, gee, golly, wow.

SPEAKER_00 37:31

Well, thank God because he was so over the damn top. And um, so uh while while everyone else is getting acquainted, this is when Warren is with OB. So the literally the only two minorities are out in the snow dealing with this stuff, and um uh everybody, so we realize like Mobra and everyone, they're trying to like figure out how many people are around. They're trying to do that for a reason. And it's like, is there a just say there's a black guy out there? And it's like, yeah, there's a black guy out there.

SPEAKER_02 38:00

So they're trying to get a head count, as you pointed out earlier, right? Very subtle, but I like it.

SPEAKER_00 38:05

It was very subtle, it was very subtle. Um, so Smithers was just some old dude fought in the war and everything. I guess he was a legend for the for the South. But hey man, you guys lost, so suck it. Um now Warren and Obi join, so everyone now is all in the same space, and you know, tensions get a little bit. It's about to go down absolutely. So before we can't move off of this one yet, because there's there's some bickering, there's some back and forth. Like Mannix, you literally don't know what who Mannix, like Mannix is just bouncing all over. Like he's friends with you, he's friends with them, he's you know, he's talking shit to you. Like, he's all over the place. But we and we ended up dividing the the lodge, the haberdashery in two, and you know, the the the southern folks were by the fireplace, and the other the northern folks are by the bar, the table was the neutral ground is set, right? So um we have John, Obi, and Warren essentially up north, and then um they're kind of talking, just trying to. Warren is like, something something's up, something's off. Or John is John, John is so focused on his losing his bounty, though, but so he feels something's off, rightfully so, but he's so distracted by the whole bounty thing, he's not really paying attention to all the other things that you mentioned. Warren picked up on, you know. So he just came out and said it listen, this is my this is my bounty, like stay the F away, and we won't have any problems. He disarms Joe Gage and takes his gun because again, he was the most shady looking person in the goddamn place. And now everybody's chilling, everybody's having a meal, and Samuel Jackson, Warren, goes over to talks to Smithers. Smithers already made it clear yo, Blackie, Darky, get the fuck away from me. Like, we're not doing this, okay? I don't give a shit that we lost, I don't give a shit that you all won, you know, stay away from me. Warren comes over to engage in conversation, friendly conversation.

Warren Provokes A Deadly Choice

SPEAKER_00 40:20

He brought him some food, some stew, and he sits and he talks with him. He asks him if he can sit and he starts to talk to him about his late students.

SPEAKER_02 40:30

Because first your boy um was gonna like, hey, you get away from him first before you even said anything. He's like, hey get away from me. He's like, What? We shared a battlefield together. I'm gonna sit down with him. Is that okay with you? And white guy was like, you know what? You're right. We did share a battlefield. You know, there is that moment of like we're soldiers, so okay, this is okay. And it quickly goes downhill. Go ahead, run it.

SPEAKER_00 40:54

This upcoming story is the most disrespectful thing I think I've seen in a long time. He starts to tell him, Oh, I knew your boy, you know, from the war. He said, Oh, you knew my boy? I know your boy, yeah. He's like, Oh shit, you know, and he's like, Yeah, we were on a battlefield together. I mean, he's like, Well, I know of him, so he's like, Alright. So now you see Warren's changing his story up a little bit, right? And he's like, Did you know him or not? He's like, Oh well, you know, I got to know him pretty well. And Warren tells this story about how these which we heard alluded to from in the carriage, where white soldiers would go out hunting him, trying to collect the bounty, and they were they would die. You know, they would they were not they were not no one's able to catch him, he would kill them all. But this one guy, this one white soldier who happens to be the son of this great general in the south who killed so many blacks, he came after Warren, and he made the mistake of telling Warren who his father was. He was, yeah, and Warren, instead of murdering him, killing him on sight, he decided to capture Homeboy, strip him down naked, and make him walk through the snow for several miles. Several miles. No food, no water, no clothing, nothing, torturing this man until it got to the point where he collapsed from the cold and now he's begging for some warmth. He wants a blanket. He just wants a blanket. Can you give me a blanket? And Warren says, okay. As Warren describes, he unzips his pants, takes out his big black cock, which is super hard, he mails his note, and warm, and he puts it in Homeboy's mouth. And he describes in detail how this guy's son sucked his dick for a fucking blanket and never got his goddamn blanket. Listen to me, right? This was so fucking crazy. Was this story true?

SPEAKER_02 43:15

Oh, you asking me? I'm asking you. Do you think I felt it was true? I felt it was a true story. I mean, I felt it was true. It was it'd be a hell of a thing to think off the top of your head that just because you knew who that was, but you know, I thought it was true. I felt it was true. What did you think?

SPEAKER_00 43:35

They did a really good job because we did not talk about this whole Lincoln letter thing of it all. Um yeah, it was discovered that uh Warren told John he had a a letter directly from President Lincoln.

SPEAKER_03 43:52

Crack his ass off. He was like, You got a letter.

SPEAKER_02 43:58

No, he started with a slow Cook again where you're like, oh, okay. He must be, he's like, he's feeling it. Like he was like, oh, you you so you you uh I've heard that you got some correspondence. He said, actually, not correspondence, but I heard you were penpiles, and not just pen piles, but you were practically friends. He was like, get the fuck out of here.

SPEAKER_00 44:23

He was like from from Lincoln? Abraham Lincoln? Lincoln?

SPEAKER_03 44:29

The president from the United States.

SPEAKER_00 44:32

Get the fuck out of here. He's like, that nigga don't have the letter from hey, that shit, that was so fucking funny. So Samuel Jackson, uh, Warren confessed, yeah, I don't, I didn't, I made it up, you know. So the reason I brought that up though is because right after that scene where it's just established, all right, he's telling this lie, this big lie, holding it there and there and there, he goes and antagonizes this guy and then tells this excessive ass story, which I just talked about how this movie did a lot of telling and not showing, but they showed us. Yeah, they showed that that one. You know, so if you were like, ah, he's making this up, when they cut to that flashback, it's like, no, this shit must be this shit looks true. It's happened.

SPEAKER_02 45:15

Yeah, that one looks true. But the thing, okay, so the letter, I again, it's so hard to tell who's a re who's telling the truth, who's the bad guy, who's the good guy. Everybody's just kind of like surviving. And in those, in that world where you have to survive, I'm sure you have to be quick on your feet. I don't know if the letter thing was actually untrue, or he just said it so that you know they wouldn't harass him about it. Because, first of all, if it is true, fine. Like, I wouldn't tell a bunch of people about that because especially, you know, being a black soldier in that time, like he could easily just strip shit from you and oh well for you. So I you know, I wouldn't be telling people about it at all.

SPEAKER_00 45:55

I think he used that letter as a shield though. He he used it as a shield against against white people. So he had to tell them about it. That would that's where he got some respect from from some of them, you know.

SPEAKER_02 46:05

Yeah, yeah. There I guess is I guess in my mind there's like a little bit of a balance, right? Because if they are just strip him down and take his shit, what was he gonna do? Yeah, not a damn thing, right? But at the same time, yeah, it got him into spaces, and you know, he said, Well, if I didn't tell you, were you gonna get let me go on a stage coat? Like, it got him into spaces like he probably would not have been, but to me, I feel like the letter was real, and it just he just said that just to get him off his back is what I feel like happened.

SPEAKER_00 46:34

Interesting.

SPEAKER_02 46:34

I don't know that uh that's that was my feeling. He was like, Yeah, I lied, but I didn't I didn't think it was a lie, I think it was a real letter.

SPEAKER_00 46:41

Well, during this story when he told Smithers about how he made his son friggin' you know degrade himself, he put a gun because there was there was an altercation earlier, and they had to cool Warren down and say, Listen, you can't shoot an unarmed man, that's a crime period, you know? You can defend yourself all day every day. So Warren, and it was funny, I think it was right before, or as he was starting his story, he just put the gun down and walked away from it. And that's how you knew, all right, some shit's about to happen. So he asked Smithers, what you gonna do? You let me be smirch your boy and talk about how you suck some black cock for nothing. Listen, man, Smithers old ass grabbed the gun, he tried his best. He was dead before he even knew it.

SPEAKER_02 47:28

All right, yeah, I don't think he even raised the gun up. He already had a shot in his chest. I was like, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 47:33

Warren dropped that fool, okay? So, man, listen, that was some exciting stuff. This scene here has nothing to do with what's going on, by the way, right?

SPEAKER_03 47:44

This is just it just happened to show up type of thing. Like, seriously, yeah, nothing to do with anything, but it was just like, oh, okay, well, one character down, you know, he's not the bad guy, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 47:59

So

Chapter Four: Poisoned Coffee And Guitar Shock

SPEAKER_00 48:00

now we move on to chapter four. Domague's got a secret.

SPEAKER_03 48:04

Domague got a secret.

SPEAKER_00 48:06

So while this was happening, apparently somebody poisoned the the coffee. I was gonna say tea. Somebody poisoned the coffee, and Domagu saw who the person was, but she didn't say anything. So now the mystery stuff is is really you know creeping up. But oh, before I keep going, uh the movie, this is where the movie lost me for a second, for a beat. Because at the beginning of chapter four, we had a sudden friggin' random ass narrator narrating the scene.

SPEAKER_02 48:39

And I'm like, Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:43

I was like, sudden random narrator is sudden as fuck because that came out of nowhere. Yeah, I didn't need it. I didn't need it. I found out Tarantino himself, by the way.

SPEAKER_02 48:54

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:56

So Yeah, I don't know. I don't know why they did that because it didn't really add to it. Like we would have figured it out without him saying whatever.

SPEAKER_00 49:08

We saw what he was saying, so there was no reason. There was no reason. There could have been no dialogue in us in over that scene, and we'd have known exactly what happened. So that was weird. Weird as hell. Um, all right, so now we have this whole mystery like who did it? Who done it? You I guess and you know, even this mystery didn't really matter, you know. But I I I played the game. I was like, well, obviously it wasn't John Root because he drank it, or OB because he drank the coffee. Um, I didn't think Maddox because he was distracted with the conversation between Smithers and Warren. Uh Bob was playing piano, so I left Mobra and Gage, and like Gage is shady as hell. So I just assumed it was Gage, you know, the whole time. So it wasn't very hard to kind of decipher this quote unquote mystery because it wasn't a real mystery, right? Yeah, um, that's not what the show movie was even about. But Darmago is watching this whole thing goes down, and um she plays so she she asked to play the guitar.

SPEAKER_02 50:05

Oh, the song took me out. Again, it was like the first the first verse was like, oh, this is nice. He's like, Yeah, keep playing. Second verse, dismantle the man. I was like, damn.

SPEAKER_03 50:20

Rip that guitar her fucking hand and smash it.

SPEAKER_00 50:23

Oh my god, she was so funny. So um that guitar, man, that was an antique guitar, a real antique guitar that he smashed that Kurt Russell smashed.

SPEAKER_02 50:34

Oh, really? Yeah, oh you mean like in real? Okay.

SPEAKER_00 50:38

In real life, that guitar was unloan from um some museum, and it was supposed to be swapped out with a prop. Kurt Russell didn't know. He just knew he was supposed to smash a guitar. So instead of waiting for the prop one smash uh to swap it out, he smashed the shit out of that guitar. Man, those people, I mean, it wasn't sure, of course, but what's money gonna pay for a priceless freaking well? We say priceless, but they put money, they put a price tag on these things, right? But ever since then, the that museum is like, yeah, we're no longer loaning shit out to people. Like, don't even ask, you know. I that was something funny I came across.

SPEAKER_02 51:15

Was that like antique from like the 1800s or something?

SPEAKER_00 51:18

Or it was um, I'll tell you right now. Yes, 1870s Martin Guitar. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's rough. Oh, yeah, by the Martin Guitar Museum. Yeah, that's oh tough, tough, tough, tough stuff. That's that's bad business.

SPEAKER_02 51:39

I'd have sued the shit out of them. Yeah, I'd sue the shit out of them.

SPEAKER_00 51:43

That's what insurance is for, you know.

SPEAKER_02 51:45

I mean, yeah, but still. I guess. Oh, God. Anyway, all right. That's bad on them. They shouldn't have done that.

SPEAKER_00 51:55

So we see OB and um John drink the drink the coffee, and it's like, oh damn. Like John, so it's like John's about to be gone two-thirds in into the movie, you know? Yeah, he almost made it. This this this poison? Who's the most violent poison?

SPEAKER_03 52:12

What fucking like supercharged poison is this? There's no poison that happens like that. Like, no, what is that?

SPEAKER_00 52:20

I don't know. Fucking nightshade or something?

SPEAKER_02 52:23

I don't know. No, nothing would work that fast, that violently. Like, never. Like, they're just literally pieces of their guts were coming out in their throat.

SPEAKER_00 52:36

It would have honestly honestly right. It would have had to have been like some type of like fucking neurotoxin. Like, did they put snake venom in there? You know what I'm saying? Because I mean the way the the way it affected it, it looked like it looked like what a um either like a hemotoxin or a cytotoxin would do where it just breaks down your blood cells or your cells and just make you start hemorrhaging. That's what it made me think of. So I don't know what poison is.

SPEAKER_02 53:01

Yeah, but it didn't come out of all the orifices like it should have. It just they just threw it back up. But like anything that that aggressive going down should have they should have felt it going down. It shouldn't have been a they shouldn't have had the ability to just sit there and be like, oh, something's wrong. Like they should have felt it going down and then felt it worse coming up, but it was like nothing, and then all of a sudden their guts are just on the floor. And it's like, all right, this is weird. Oh my god. They had this supercharged, made up poison. I was like, all right, fine. I guess they really wanted to kill you. Like, poison did not work like that, bro.

SPEAKER_00 53:33

Oh, but I mean Tarantino. Tarantino loves excessive, gore.

SPEAKER_02 53:38

He does. He does, he does, he does.

SPEAKER_00 53:40

Uh along with using the N-word. So hey.

SPEAKER_02 53:42

Yeah. Um But yeah, it wasn't like you said, it was not hard to figure out which one of the two did it. It was like Gage was it. Gage is my pick as well. It was like, all right, 100%. Yeah. He's the one who was because he was always like like, like you said, kind of like slinky or in the back, kind of just like not doing anything. Like everybody else was kind of like engaged, and he was just kind of there. So it was like, all right, whatever. So fine, Gage is a bad guy. Cool.

SPEAKER_00 54:06

So as that happened, things escalated very quickly. Yeah, yeah. Guns are being drawn, people are shooting and everything. And um, you know, Samel um he was able to gain control of the situation, right? He he put Gage, Mowbray, OB all up against, and Mannix at first, all up against the wall. And, you know, we saw some detective skills, right, from from Warren, where he's like, Alright, um, Mannix, come over here, hold this gun. Obviously, you're not in on this because you damn near drank the poison yourself. So it's one of these three clowns, and he takes us back to mini, which again, this whole mini thing has nothing to do with the overall, not nothing, but it's it's a a minor plot, not minor. Fuck, how am I trying to describe this? It it's not directly related to the poison, which is what we're trying to figure out, but Warren just can't get over the fact that, yo, what is good like what's up with this OB dude, you know? And he's able to rightfully deduce that OB had a hand in killing Minnie and Dave, and he walked through, it was very well walked how he walked through everything and explained it, and he just I don't know what he had, what caliber guns those were, you know, or or if there was freaking exploding bullets, like what the fuck is that? Because it looked like he smashed his head with a fucking baseball bat, all right? Like Obi was done for. So um they're like, okay, well, what does this have to do with a poisoning? And he's like, nothing. I just needed to sort out Minnie and Dave's bullshit first before we get to that, you know. So he's like, Alright, now we're down to these two. And he's like, again, he's like, all right, obviously it's gage, like you're the one who poisoned, so you know, but before you know anything can happen or any justice can be brought to these guys, frickin' Shannon Tatum comes out of the ground and shoots Samuel Jackson in the dick. And that was so just unexpected. Alright, it just came out of nowhere that he was hiding in the floor this whole time. And I mean, I knew Shannon Tatum's in a movie. I'm like, when is Shannon Tatum gonna get in here?

Chapter Five: The Gang Reveal Through Flashback

SPEAKER_00 56:13

And now we move on to chapter five, the four passengers, which is rewinding time, right, to the beginning of the movie, but we're now we're watching from the point of view of the four passengers, which were Bob, uh Oswaldo Mowbray, Joe Gage, and Jody Domargue, who's Channel Tatum's character. So now they show us what happens. Um, this is a quick again the narrator is back, but this is a quick scene um where it's just showing us all right what how these guys got into place. They came into town, they wanted to rescue Daisy, so they they moved in, they killed Minnie, they killed Dave, they killed all the other people that were in the haberdashery. They left that old white dude alive, Smithers, because reasons, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 57:04

Um they said he added to he added to not being as suspicious. Like if he wasn't there, it would have been more suspicious. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 57:12

I guess so. Yeah, I guess so. So um now everything's in place and now we're waiting for for Daisy to arrive with her captures.

SPEAKER_02 57:24

Yeah. Okay, let's go back to this flashback. One, I didn't like the flashback. Not because it didn't show it showed us what was happening, okay, but it was just kind of chunky. Like it was kind of weird. It was just kind of like he was like, oh shit, I didn't really explain these guys. Let me throw this piece in. And I was like, oh, okay. So I didn't like it at all. But okay, you know, it it got the point across of like how they got there. Like I almost could have still gotten the point without that flashback. I was like, okay.

SPEAKER_00 57:50

Yeah they it wouldn't have been hard to put together. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:53

Yeah, but okay, fine, whatever. Um, but the way they were killing them was so goddamn messy. I was like, This is bad. Uh this is how are you cleaning any of this up in time for these people to arrive?

SPEAKER_00 58:07

Like that was the ridiculous thing. And this this is wood cabins where it's like wood, blood is soaking in.

SPEAKER_02 58:14

Like, what? Like, uh if you really want some kind of element of surprise, uh they're gonna see all this blood here. But I mean, mysteriously, the blood was gone. I was like, okay, all the blood was gone.

SPEAKER_00 58:24

There was no beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 58:25

All the blood was gone, all the jelly beans are gone, all the glass is gone. Except for one. Except for the one. Yes. There was the one red jelly bean, was like the kind of the red herring, right? So I was like, oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 58:37

I didn't really care about I didn't need to I didn't need them to explain whether jelly bean was there, you know. I didn't need it either.

SPEAKER_02 58:42

It's like whether or not it was related to them shooting on the place or not, it's like it wasn't it's not out of place for a red jelly bean or a jelly bean or candy or something to be on the floor.

SPEAKER_00 58:51

Like, what are this is still the 1800s, like they showed us they showed us where that one jar was missing because there was supposed to say I think four jars, yeah and it was three, and there was clearly one missing in between. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got the jelly bean payoff, I guess, but whatever. I think honestly, honestly, I think that was just for um that's to give Shan Tatum some screen time. That's that's the only real logical reason I can say for that.

SPEAKER_02 59:17

I mean, yeah, other than that, he immediately died, so yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:21

Not in this movie. He's not in this movie, really, you know? Yeah. So um, so we we do you have more to say in chapter five, or that was that's about it, right?

SPEAKER_02 59:31

Nah, yeah, that's that's pretty much it. I mean, you you're killing it, you're killing it, you're killing it. I like it. I did, oh, well. The only thing I'd like to add with Sam Jackson, again, I don't know how he didn't get a nod for this um role, because he really, really took control of this role and took control of the room, especially since he was a black guy, in you know, soon thereafter uh the civil war, where black people still like property and cattle, like still. So it's just like this man was demanding, like in uh demanding their attention. Not not just demanding, but it wasn't really demanding, that's not what I want to say, but uh regardless of whatever, he was getting it, right? He was getting that attention. He was he had all of it. He waited silently, patiently. Um he collected his data, he collected his information, and then when the time was right, i.e., people are just spitting up their guts, he's like, oh well, let me tell you the thing that I realized an hour ago, but I guess none of you figured it out. So, okay, here we go. And then, yeah, poor Senor Bob, which I don't know if he was I don't know if he was pretend Mexican or real Mexican. I don't know what that accent was, but okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:43

He was actual Mexican, his um Marco, Marco was his real name. Because everyone had given like fake names or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:53

Yeah, I don't know why his Mexican was like so off. Like, I'm Senor Bob. It's like, okay, Senor Bob. But either way. Yeah. Um, no, I just I just want to say hats off to Samuel L. Jackson because yeah, he just he just spun that story very well. Where I didn't need the flashback. I didn't need the little jelly bean scene. I didn't need any of that because Samuel L. Jackson was that that that information was that he was dragging me along the story. I I knew what was happening because of him. So I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:22

Yeah, it it did it did stop the momentum, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:25

It did. It was weird. It's like actually, let's go back. I'm like, what the fuck? I don't need to go back. Continue.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:32

Let's keep going. And I think um the editing what is one of the criticisms of the movie, along with some of the other stuff we talked about, like the race stuff, and uh people didn't like the way that the Daisy character was treated, you know. Uh, but editing was definitely mentioned as well.

Last Chapter: Final Standoff Turns To Negotiation

SPEAKER_02 1:01:51

I didn't like that. But let's move on. So now we're in the final cut. So uh they kind of had a shootout where you know everybody's shooting and accidentally shooting each other, uh, whether they meant to or not. Like freaking uh Samuel L. Jackson's balls, I think, got shot, not his dick, but maybe both. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how I don't know how his shit sit. I don't know how it sings, you know, so maybe.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:13

I mean, I think was I think it's all gone. Like he's gonna be a big thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:17

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:18

It could have been like his inner groin. You know what? Okay, fine. It's all gone. He's castrated. Got it. He is gone. He's gone.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:24

He called him a castrated castrating bastard. He did call him a castrated bastard. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:29

Um, so everybody's bleeding out essentially, because they ain't gonna make it ain't no way. So I guess it's just who dies first before they all bleed out.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:37

Correct. Correct. And when I realized that, I was like, okay, so no one's walking away from this. And I mean, eventually they actually said it out loud, like, hey man, like we're not, we're not leaving this place alive, you know? Oh so first they had to get Jody out of the floor, and um, you know, they're like, hey man, like you better come out, or else we're gonna blow your sister's head off, you know. Well, they didn't know that was his sister, but we're gonna blow Daisy's head off. So he throws up his gun, and um Samuel turns to Walter Goggins. I bet he has another gun. So Walter Goggins is like, throw your other gun up. He's like, I ain't got no other gun. Well, you better shit out another gun because if you don't that day made me laugh.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:23

You better shit out another one before I shoot her in the head.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:26

All of a sudden, another one gets thrown up. I was like, Oh.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:28

You mean this one? Yeah, so he threw out the other gun. He's like, I told you shows, uh, shows himself, and now Daisy, you know, her face lights up, her brother is hair, and he he put this all into motion to save her. And then Samuel Jackson immediately just splits this guy's head open, just blows it right off. Yeah. Of course, the the guts, brain matter, whatever, not guts, but blood and brain matter is all over Daisy's face, and she's like, Oh, he was surrendering. He took too long. I helped him a lot.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:59

He did think too long. Maz was like, he was actively surrendering, took too long. Shot him.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:05

Oh my gosh. So this is this is where the genius in the in the movie was. And I did see, I think there was a version of the script where everyone just died in a in a hail of bullets in a massive. Blaze of glory type shit. Yeah, yeah. And the movie kind of subverts expectations, right? Because after we had this like climax and this all this action and tension happening, and then it just it kind of slows back down, and we go back into a a dialogue scene, right? Now it's uh now we're negotiating, right? And to end the movie this way, as opposed to just everybody shooting it out, um, I don't know if that disappointed some people. I was not disappointed. Listen to me. Anytime I can hear Walton Goggins speak and deliver lines, and I can hear Samuel Jackson deliver lines. No, let's go for that ending. Like I'm all on board for that. And that's what they gave us, you know, um, between Daisy and then the negotiation. So Daisy is saying, Oh, there's 15, which was interesting because we knew she was lying from the jump, right? But she's like, Oh, there's 15. Um, well, she tells them that this is the Jody Domergue gang, the Domergu gang, which Mannix didn't know who that was, but of course, you know, Warren actually knew who it was, and she explained how there's a 50,000 bounty on Jody's head, and there was 10 on every single person who's a part of the gang, including every single person that was in there except for Smithers, all of them were members of the gang. So there was what $40,000, $50,000, $100,000 worth in bounty in that room alone, right? Yeah. So Daisy's trying to appeal to Mannix. Listen, just kill the kill the black guy, shoot him dead, and you can have you know these bounties, you can collect this money, and so far you let me go, get my brother's body, and we'll be cool. And you can see Mannox kind of considering. In it, and there was a split second where Gage you know they tried to engage, and then Mannix kills them all. So now it's just Daisy, it's just Mannix, and it's just Warren alive now. And Warren is concerned that Mannix is gonna take the deal because he himself isn't sure if this guy's a sheriff or not, and you know, money is money.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:22

So yeah, I mean, to be honest, I I probably would have shot him, I'm gonna be honest, because I'm like, I feel like you're about to take this money. Like, he he looked like he was hot hard, like contemplating very hard, in my opinion. Even he got his eyes, uh, because see Samuel L. Jackson's eyes kind of darkening between um Mannix and um and uh Daisy. And he's like, wait, don't listen to her. Nah.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:45

He's like, oh shit. He's like, ah shit. Oh my god. He shoots her in the foot one time because she wouldn't stop talking. Um and um I guess actually it was it was Samuel, uh it was Warren who killed the other two because he ran out of bullets when he was about to kill Daisy. So that's what reopened the negotiations, right? Yeah, yeah. Mannix was like, nah, Mannix has too much pride because he's a goddamn sheriff of Red Rock, okay? And his daddy had a real group of people, you know, he gave this long speech or whatever, and he's like, I don't believe you. I think you're lying. There's no 15 men coming, and you know, you can't fool me. And at the end of this glorious speech, my guy faints. He passes away.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:34

The blood laws got him. Man's just out.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:36

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:37

Then Daisy is like immediately into like, oh shit, well, I'm gonna cut your arm off.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:43

Again, more uh gore and blood, but I mean, yeah, Kurt Russell's gotta be like 200, 250, 220. I don't know. He looks pretty big, but he also has like a lot of clothes on. So that's a lot of men to like be dragging around, so I probably would have tried to cut his shit off too. Like, I don't I'm for any of this. Like, I'm just gonna. I would have done it by the wrists though, not the whole thing. Yeah, I don't know why the whole arm. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I think like the wrists have been all right, but you know, whatever. The whole arm went. So I was like, all right, well, whatever. Um he almost gets it, but uh your boy saves the day. He wakes the hell up somehow, and uh takes care of business.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:19

I indeed.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:23

So he's about to finish her off, and um Warren says, no, hold on. You know, in in John the Hangman's honor, he was a son of a bitch, you know, but he was true to his word and he was a good man. And if the hangman catches you, you hang. You know, so our last act can be bringing justice to Daisy the right way, you know. And um, and this is why I still believe that Maddox was a sheriff, because he says, as my first and last duty as sheriff of the town of Red Rocks, okay, I sentence you, Daisy Damergue, to death, okay? Yeah, so at that point in time, like who is he performing for? You know, I think he was a sheriff. I think he was.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:11

I don't think that man is a sheriff, but you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:13

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:14

All right. Hey, hey, when you bite into a lie long enough, that that becomes your truth. I don't think this man is a sheriff. I still don't think so. But you know, whatever. It don't matter. Man's about to die there anyway.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:23

So the final scene of the movie is Mannix asking Warren for his letter, you know, and allowing him to read it. And he reads this beautifully crafted, you know, wonderfully penned letter from Abraham Lincoln, you know, directed to Warren. And um Yeah, at the end of it, Mannox was like, it's a nice letter. It's it's a nice letter. It's a good touch. Um, he mentioned um Abe's wife. I'm blanking on her name right now, but he said, that's a good touch, you know. Isn't it Abigail? Abigail, yes. Yes. Yeah, so is that is it Abigail?

SPEAKER_02 1:10:05

Yeah, I mean you bought it, so shit, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:08

I did. I'm like Let me look it up.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:12

Yeah, nah. Nah, Abigail is a lot of it.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:15

Mary Todd, you fucked that up. It's Mary Todd. I said, yeah, no, Abigail is not right. I remember it being like a two-name thing or whatever. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:31

No, I knew it wasn't Abigail because but it is what pops in my head, but so I just ran with that.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:35

I was like, it's fucking Abigail. But I'm like, this man was not Abraham and Abigail Lincoln, but I was just like, you know what? I'm fucking going with it.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:43

I wanted you to be correct, and then when I thought of it for like one second, I was like, wait, hold on. That's not right. That's not right at all.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:50

Abigail Lincoln is number five in code name Kids Next Door. So, you know, that works. Like, I feel like I know this name. Fucking Kids Next Door.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:00

Anyway.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:01

Deep cut, deep cut. Deep cut. Oh gosh. Alright. Um, yeah, so and we have this nice, you know, uh ending uh to this very brutal, very graphic, very gory movie. And that's that is the hateful eight, you know? Yeah. Before we go into actual scoring the movie, uh what did you like? What did you think about this movie? I know you said you love it, but let me just so let me tell you where I'm coming from here. All right. I finished a movie and I really liked it. I thought I thought it was really good. Uh-huh. But I'm like, why is this a movie? Like, what's the what is the point of this movie? You know, like I I I didn't get the message if there was a because I feel like Tarantino usually makes some type of commentary or there's some type of deeper meaning or message. I did not see it. I just thought it was just and if it was just for entertainment purposes, that's great. That's you know, that's what movies are for to entertain you. But I'm like, am I a dum-dum or like what's going on here? So that's what I wanted to do.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:08

Yeah, okay. So answer your question, I I don't think there's some kind of deep meaning. I think it was just a well-shot movie. Um I think Samuel L. Jackson killed it. Um, and that and everyone is else, except Walter Goggins. He was there, he he did well as well. Except and, you know, um, I think everybody else just kind of dragged along, to be honest. So really, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:32

I mean Oh you wasn't even feeling Kurt Russell's performance?

SPEAKER_02 1:12:39

Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:44

Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. Okay. Damn.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:50

Like you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:57

Yeah, no. I mean he was I mean nothing was wrong with him. He did he did alright. He did fine, he did fine, but it wasn't like I didn't get anything from it. It was like, okay, like there's another character there. Like, okay. It didn't really, yeah, it didn't really do much. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:16

Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:18

Alright. Well now I am super excited to hear what your ratings are. Migrating

Red Apple Trivia And Ratings

SPEAKER_00 1:13:25

that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:26

Oh, before I go into that, I do have some trivia for you. Oops.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:30

Let's do it.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:31

Alright, so in the movie, there is this reference of red apple tobacco. Do you recall?

SPEAKER_00 1:13:39

Yes. Uh Manzanas Rojos is one of the things. There you go.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:44

Okay, alright. Well, okay. Well, Duel and Girl don't have to show up here today. It's fine. Uh anyway, so Red Apple app Red Apple Tobacco shows up in several other movies. Can you name any of them? Get the fuck out of here.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:00

Can you name three of them? Absolutely not. Can you give me some hints? Like other Quentin Tarantino movies?

SPEAKER_02 1:14:06

Yeah, other Quentin Tarantino. Yeah, this is Quentin Tarantino's like made-up brand.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:09

Like, this is his brand. This is a good one. I was thinking all of Hollywood. I was like, get the fuck out of here.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:14

Oh, no, this is his made-up brand. Okay. Put it in all damn near all his movies. Can you name it?

SPEAKER_00 1:14:19

I'm gonna say I'm gonna say Pulp Fiction. Yes. I'm gonna say wait, sorry. How many movies is it in? It's only in three, or are you just asking me for three?

SPEAKER_02 1:14:29

I was just asking for three. It's been in four or not including this one.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:33

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Got you.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:36

All right. Actually, no, it's it's actually it's been in shit. I'm sorry, it's been in one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. It's been in seven, not including this one.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:45

Okay. So um Pulp Fiction. Um I'm gonna say in Glorious Bastards.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:53

It is, yes, two.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:54

Okay. And Reservoir Dogs.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:04

No.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:05

Damn it. Was it in Kill Bill? It was in Kill Bill, but I was gonna say Kill Bill first. Okay. It was.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:11

It was like a it was a big ass um like commercial or poster, I think.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:15

Oh, dope. Yeah, I should have I was gonna say Kill Bill and I went to Reservoir Dogs. I don't know why I didn't.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:19

It was also in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. I think that's what like uh Really? I think that's what you've seen that's uh I haven't seen it either. But I think the meme where he's like smoking and pointing a finger, I think that's what he's smoking.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:30

Oh, okay, is that it? Okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:32

Alright, well that's good.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:33

You got more tricky.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:34

I mean, you did better than me.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:35

Yeah, my shit was all a little due to um the world scene areas, yeah. All right. Hidden tapes. Let's get to scoring. Let's rate it. For for any newcomers, we rate our movies based on five categories plot and writing, acting and casting, production, cinematography, music and sound, and cultural impact. Everything is rated on a scale of one to ten. Jill, plot and writing, what do you got?

SPEAKER_02 1:16:09

Yeah, um, yeah, you're not gonna like my number. Oh.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:14

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:17

Yeah, I you know. It's a six. It's a six for me. It's a six for me.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:25

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:25

No, you're fine.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:26

I give it a seven.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:28

Oh, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:29

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You thought I was gonna be higher?

SPEAKER_02 1:16:31

Yeah, I thought she would be higher than that. Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:33

I I really like the movie. I think it's cool, but like I said, I was like, I don't it's just a fucking movie for movie's sake. Like it's not like you know, you just he just it was some really good storytelling, yes, but yeah. It was anything groundbreaking plot-wise, you know. Um so yeah, we're we're pretty much aligned. Um acting and casting, what do you have?

SPEAKER_02 1:16:52

I have an eight.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:53

I I was gonna guess you had an eight. Um, I gave it a nine.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:58

I was really feeling those performances.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:01

No, they did excellent. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:03

I mean, eight is good. Eight is good. And and Jennifer Daisy's character, she was really good as well.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:09

I mean, she got an odd, so you know. She did.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:12

She did. What about production and cinematography? What you got for that?

SPEAKER_02 1:17:17

I got a solid nine for cinematography.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:20

I do as well. I do as well. I was between a nine and a ten. I I landed on a nine, but yeah, we already gushed about the scenery and how beautiful the movie looked. And again, it was nominated for for that in the Oscars. Um, music and sound, what do you put there?

SPEAKER_02 1:17:38

I think they did a good job with the sound and music, so I actually gave that an eight as well.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:42

I also have an eight. We are in line. We need to. I went for us to like strongly disagree on a movie, and all our scores are like within percentage points of each other.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:54

Cultural impact, what do you have here?

SPEAKER_02 1:17:57

Yeah, so you know, I don't yeah. I got a five.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:06

A five. I gave it a two. Oh shit. I know, so why do you have a five? Like I mean, it's trash.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:18

I like the movie a lot, but it has no cultural impact. The only reason I gave it a five is because of how it was shot with the uh on a 65 millimeter film, which not many films have been shot on that.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:31

So Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:32

I thought that that warranted some some uh some cultural impact there.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:38

But did did that encourage people to start shooting films on ones? Okay, well, you don't have to be a hate. All right, all right, where you see impacted the culture, yeah, like it was in a 70 millimeter.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:52

3333.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:53

Okay, no, no, no, no, I didn't mean for you to change it.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:55

I was just I already ate okay. So what I'm saying is I think I'm double counting because I already gave it that credit in the cinematography. So I'm gonna take away that credit, and now we're down to three.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:07

Okay, so you s you yeah, so your score was higher than mine's overall, and now it's lower. My uh my final your final score is a 6.8, my final score is a seven.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:21

Wow. Yeah, and this is a movie that we love. We love to go back and fix fucking predator because it is way too high.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:31

For for for reference, we have predator score as you have an eight, and I have it as an 8.2 for Predator.

Farewell And How To Reach Us

SPEAKER_00 1:19:40

Jesus Christ. That's tough. That is tough.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:43

We gotta fix that at some point.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:45

Well, that will do it for our Real Talk and Banter on the Hateful Eight. To connect with us, to give us some feedback, or just say hello, email us at realtalkbanter at gmail.com. That's r-e-e-l banter at gmail.com. Thanks for listening.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:02

Bye.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:04

Oh God. Get the hell out of here. You said you wouldn't do that anymore. Dang. Uh, there's so many quotable lines. There was a hangman speech where um um only a hangman, a mean man should should hang, but you mean to hang a mean whatever the fucking line is, man. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:23

That's exactly what you should put exactly that in there. Put exactly that in there. Shit. You do that. Go for it.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:29

There was that. That was that was the line. Oh my god. Dang. Tribute to the hangman on the way out. That was your opportunity right there.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:40

Well, you just did it. I like it.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:42

I didn't know. Well, that's not now. I need to. I don't remember what is that only don't don't try it now.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:49

It's fucked up. Go for it. Just leave it as it.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:52

Whatever. Goodbye.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:54

Bye.

Post Credit Scene

SPEAKER_02 1:21:31

Habatantiary? Habidashery. Habidashi. I'm fucking it up, but that's fine. Uh we don't know that.