Everyone Guard Your Loins And Take Notes: The Devil Wears Prada (2006)

Miranda Priestly walks into Runway and an entire floor panics, and that alone tells you what kind of movie The Devil Wears Prada really is. We rewatch the 2006 film with fresh eyes and realize it plays less like a cute career comedy and more like a toxic workplace survival story dressed in couture.

We talk through Andy Sachs showing up shockingly unprepared, why that choice changes how we judge her whole arc, and how the film sometimes forces her ignorance for the joke. From the cerulean monologue to the rapid-fire orders that feel impossible to execute, we break down what the movie gets right about prestige jobs: unclear expectations, constant pressure, and the way power makes people compete for approval they never fully receive. We also give credit where it is due, because Meryl Streep’s Miranda is still a masterclass, Emily Blunt steals scenes, and Stanley Tucci’s Nigel brings the one moment that cuts through the noise with real insight.

Then we get into the parts that don’t hold up as well on rewatch: the rushed middle, the jammed-up Paris finale, the Nigel fallout that feels bigger than the script admits, and the friend group that acts like Andy committed a crime by being busy. If you’re looking for a Devil Wears Prada review podcast that digs into character, leadership, ambition, and cultural impact without losing the jokes, you’re in the right place.

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Transcript

Welcome And Why This Rewatch

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Hello and welcome to the Real Talk and Banter Podcast, the movie podcast where we discuss and review films that are at least a decade old. I'm Omari Williams.

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And I'm Jay Richardson.

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And today we are discussing The Devil Wears Prada, the 2006 comedy film, which has a sequel coming out today, 20 years later. So for those of you that are all about Devil Wears Prada, we have a little companion hair podcast for you to help you refresh for the movie.

SPEAKER_03 0:43

Is that what we're doing? We're refreshing them.

SPEAKER_02 0:46

Yeah, that's how we're gonna spin it. Of course, we're not like capitalizing off of new releases to try and make us relevant. Why would we do something like that?

SPEAKER_03 0:57

Ah but if we did do that, that'd be pretty smart. But pretty smart. Pretty smart. Pretty smart. Yeah, pretty smart. Alright, folks. This is my pick, so I'll take it over from here. Thank you, Amari.

SPEAKER_02 1:13

I don't know. I was getting hype for you.

SPEAKER_03 1:16

You were, and I appreciated that. Alright, folks. You're wearing a sweater that was selected for you by the people in this room from a pile of stuff. That line right there. Probably one of the coldest openings to a character breakdown. She got read for filth right there. Um but it immediately tells you everything you need to know about this world. This is a place where you think you're making your own choices, but really everything kind of has already been decided for you. Isn't that kind of how life is? You're like, oh, I'm definitely gonna do this, and I'm the one who only thought about it, and then you realize like 30 other people thought about it, like the same time as you. You're like, oh, I'm not an individual at all. It's sad. Anyway, this movie is directed by David Frankel. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We got it's a supercharged uh cast. You have Merrill Streep, Anne Hathaway, Emily Blunt, fine ass, and Stanley Tucci doing his thing. Um yeah, I mean shit. This, yeah, I would be shocked if this movie did not do well just because that cast alone.

SPEAKER_02 2:27

Talking about talent, yeah. Like these four um actors here, just talent.

SPEAKER_03 2:32

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Movie had a budget of around 35 million, not bad act when you consider the the strength of the cast. Um but actually, you gotta think about it, it's mainly shot in this one spot, so I guess that makes sense. Um they had a million-dollar costume budget, which was like one of the highest quoted uh high costume budgets at the time, you know, for a million dollars. I mean, they were wearing, you know, couture and Chanel and Herbier Bruceur and you know, all of those. What was that?

SPEAKER_01 3:11

What are you doing? You're gonna expose us of not being fashionists, listen, listen.

SPEAKER_03 3:17

Listen, yeah, fashionists, fashionistas. Yeah, we could we could do every ending in the Spanish world. But yeah, in case you haven't noticed, we are we are probably on the Andy-esque uh level of understanding of fashion and all that stuff. So this is a nice introduction into that world.

Movie is Toxic

SPEAKER_03 3:39

So this movie is toxic, a little crazy.

SPEAKER_01 3:44

Oh my god. Yo, one of my notes is this movie is toxic. I literally have that.

SPEAKER_03 3:50

Oh, okay, okay. I'm glad. I'm glad we are thinking the same thing now that we're older.

SPEAKER_02 3:56

This movie is toxic. And um man, I I do have like comments, commentary about uh Andy's friends later on, too, you know. Oh, bro?

SPEAKER_03 4:05

Shitty friends, fuck up friends. Oh man. Absolutely shitty friends, like except for tall guy.

SPEAKER_02 4:13

I don't know his name.

SPEAKER_03 4:14

Oh, yeah, the one dude who was like really in was kind of in the only one gassing her, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:18

The other one was just like her boyfriend was shitty friends, bro.

SPEAKER_03 4:22

Yeah, yeah. Which I didn't pick up on in the first watch. I was like, oh, okay, whatever. This is normal, but now I'm like, no, bro, you're shitty. It was probably right around then.

SPEAKER_02 4:30

It was probably right around then when they had a fallen out when I said, Okay, this is a toxic ass movie. This is crazy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:38

Alright, so this is not just nostalgia. As Amari said, you got Devil Wear Prada 2 coming out here shortly. Um, I'll be first in line to watch it. It looks like most of the main casts, if not all of them, are st are back in it. I didn't know.

SPEAKER_02 4:52

I mean the four people that matter are there.

SPEAKER_03 4:54

Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't know if the friend group comes back or not. They kind of, you know, the ending was kind of like having to stay together on another.

SPEAKER_02 5:00

She's friends with those people still. No way, man.

SPEAKER_03 5:03

She might.

SPEAKER_02 5:03

Absolutely not.

SPEAKER_03 5:04

She might. You know, you got Lily and Nate and tall dude who gassed her up. I don't know his name, but yeah, that guy. Um, but we really want to break down what works, what doesn't, and why this movie still gets talked about the way it does. So let's get into it. First impressions, let's talk about Andy because I really have a real issue right out the gate. What bothered me with Andy when she first gets in there, yeah, is that she came with like no preparation whatsoever. And I was trying to understand how that even happened. I didn't know if this was like a um job services where they just kind of randomly send you. Sure. Is that what was happening? Or like, how did she not know?

SPEAKER_02 5:45

She didn't even know the boss's name.

SPEAKER_03 5:47

Right. She didn't, she's like, who's Miranda? And I was like, how the fuck do you not know the person who's gonna you're gonna be like the direct who's um obviously a fashion icon too, right? So yeah, you should at least like know her name. Like, yeah, like I know Donatella, like I'm not gonna be like, oh, I'm like following along, but I like if you said name, I'd be like, oh, I know who that is, at least. Like she's been in the game for a minute. So it's like okay, but like she was cool as she was absolutely cool as and I just thought that was kind of weird compared considering her character and who she like showed up to be in the beginning. It's like you'd think you'd do some like some prep work, and that just kind of bothered me. I don't know. Like, at a minimum, I'm Googling, I'm watching some interviews, at least like on the way. I don't know if they had cell phones. Yeah, she didn't have a cell phone. I mean, this shitty ass blackberry looking thing, but it was a blackberry, yeah. Some shitty ass blackberry thing, but yeah, a little Google, a little something, or talk to the one friend. The one her one friend was in art, the other friend obviously liked fashion, so you could definitely have some conversations like hey, I have an interview coming up with blah blah blah. Who's this person? And you know, I like it was just weird. Um, so based on that fact, Omar, do you think that Andy deserved this job based on how she showed up? Or you think Berenna just kind of saw her and was like, I want to take a chance out of boredom?

SPEAKER_02 7:06

Um, no, of course she didn't deserve the job. Um I mean, she she was highly credentialed and qualified to do a journalism job if that's what she was. That's not even what she wanted to do. She said it to be someone else. Oh, she's assistant. Yeah. So when we say qualified, though, like how much qualifications do you need to be an assistant, right? Um I words per minute? I don't know. I mean, I mean, having some type of knowledge about the industry you're assisting would be useful. But I I did like that they addressed it later where Miranda was like, she decided to intentionally go outside of the mold because she's had so many failures as an assistant, thinking that, well, this intelligent, highly credentialed person, um let's see how that goes. So I I they acknowledge it as it was an experiment that Miranda was doing, so I'm okay with it. Um, but yeah, surface level, yeah, she's not. I cannot imagine being that unprepared for was it well, was it an interview or did she have the job when she got there?

SPEAKER_03 8:17

Yeah, so I also said I also had that note. I believe that you know Emily was planning to do kind of like a pre-interview thing, and then if she didn't pass her sniff test, then she just sent her away. And if she did, she sent her forward to Mel Street, or I'm sorry, Miranda's character. Um, but Miranda showed up early, it sounds like, and um, so before she could kind of shoot her away, Miranda already saw her and told her send her in because Emily can't pick a good assistant, apparently. So I think that's what happened there. But I don't even know how she got through the door. Like, Emily should have said, like, get out of here. Like, as soon as she saw her, like, why are you in here? Like, get out.

SPEAKER_02 8:57

My girl didn't even comb her fucking hair, man.

SPEAKER_03 9:00

Like, bro, I have a fucking note. Oh, like, why is her hair uncombed? Like, I get it. You're not into fashion. Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. I was tracking that. Why is your hair legitimately uncombed for anything?

SPEAKER_02 9:14

Not being into fashion is not synonymous with being unkempt. So yeah, I guess that was them actively trying to like make her look frumpy, I guess, but it's Anne Hathaway, so nice try again. I do find it interesting that you started off with her because I think there's an argument that so just to be clear, no one did a bad job acting-wise in this movie. But I think there's an argument that she did the lesser job of the four um leads or four main characters. What do you think about that? A lesser job in which like as far as like if you had to rank the quality, like the performances of the four of the four main characters, there's an argument that she's she would come in fourth. I can make that.

SPEAKER_03 10:01

Oh, yeah. She didn't she didn't do any legwork, she it all was picked up around everybody else. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody else dragged her along.

SPEAKER_02 10:08

And then she was like, They said, Yes, agree. I mean, I and I think this is an early gig for Anne Hathaway, right? Again, again, people, she did a really good job. No one's

Anne Hathaway Does Nothing

SPEAKER_02 10:20

saying she did bad, right? But when you compare it, well, let's say you compare her to Meryl Street, but even with Emily Blunt and Stanley Tucci, um, because they kind of set this environment for her, and she just had to like operate within it and not fuck it up. Yeah, I think she had an easier job than the other three um characters.

SPEAKER_03 10:38

Yeah, yeah, yes, a hundred percent. Emily Blunt and Stanley Tucci absolutely set a great stage for her, and she just had to not fuck it up. Like, yeah, I I kind of have notes around that, but I didn't necessarily form it that way. But now that she said it's like, yes, exactly. She was just kind of dragged along, and I heard a lot of her dialogue really said that too. She's like, Oh, I had no choice. Like, mmm, okay. Yeah, you had choices here. That kind of did get annoying.

SPEAKER_02 11:04

Um, because it's like, dude, like every everything you do in life, you have a choice. Now, do you like options you're given? Probably not, but you do have a choice. So that whole that I think that was the worst part about her character. Um, was just that like I'm a victim of circumstance type of deal. And she she kind of played into that a little too much. Although 100%, I still don't justify the way her friends treated her later. Um, no, no, no, no. Yeah, but she she could have taken a little more ownership in her agency um in everything that was happening.

SPEAKER_03 11:41

For sure, for sure. All right, so let's we have to talk about the beginning scene, not just Andy and her introduction, but you immediately get introduced to the character of Miranda, which is played by Mel Streep, uh Stanley, they uh I think Emily Blunt, or Emily Blunt, whose character's name is Emily. She gets a text message, or you know, beeper, what the fuck they got at that point, in which they said, you know, uh she's on the way, or whatever, and immediately the entire department, entire floor of people is in disarray of oh shit, the dragon lady's on her way. Stanley Tucci screams out everyone guard your loins, and you know, then it's just a slow walk of watching Meryl Streep walk onto the scene, uh, walk onto the scene, walk onto the set, walk onto the the floor, and everyone literally part ways, like she's freaking Moses, like it's crazy, but absolutely iconic. She is just drawing in from everybody. Like, there's there's a scene where I assume this person is some kind of supermodesque person. I don't know who they are, but I assume they're kind of supermodeless, and she was almost about to get onto the elevator, but Mel Street like went on an elevator first. She's like, Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. And she like jumps off the elevator.

SPEAKER_02 13:01

She was already on the elevator, so she left once Miranda walked on. Oh, yeah, that's true. That's true, that's true.

SPEAKER_03 13:07

Yeah, that's true. She's like, Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. She like, and you know, she was tall and blonde and whatever. So you assume she's she's probably some kind of known model or something in that world. Yeah, yeah. You know, I'm like, I don't know. The only one I recognized was Giselle Bunchin because she's hot, but you know, Heidi Klue was in here, and I didn't even notice.

SPEAKER_02 13:25

I noticed that after I read that she was in there, but I didn't even notice.

SPEAKER_03 13:29

100%. I did not recognize Heidi Klue in there.

SPEAKER_02 13:32

She was in there somewhere. She could have been who we're talking about right now. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 13:36

Yeah, she could be. I did not, I did not recognize her. Um but either way, listen. So Mer Go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 13:47

My note there. Um, this is actually the first note I made in the movie. Because everything up until then, I was just kind of watching, letting you know, see what's going on. But my note is this may be one of the best character intros ever. Because it was just amazing. Just everything you just laid out and just the way, just that pace that she walked with and how she showed up. It was it was awesome. It was awesome.

SPEAKER_03 14:10

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I did, I did like it. Meryl Streep as Miranda absolutely owned this role. Um, for me, anyway. I actually can't picture. I mean, there's a lot of excellent actresses out there along the list of, you know, um Meryl Streep or whatever, but for me, I can't picture anyone else playing Miranda Priestley. Um I think there's one. Oh, who do you got? Oh, this is a good question, though.

SPEAKER_02 14:39

Amazing. But the the other person who they actually considered for the role was Glenn Close. And while I was watching it, I had a like, ooh, this is giving a little like Corella vibes. And then when I saw that Glenn Close was actually considered for the role, I was like, I could, I could see, I could see Glenn Close doing this. I couldn't.

SPEAKER_03 14:56

Glenn Close, I could give for sure.

SPEAKER_02 14:58

For sure, for sure, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 15:00

Alright, so I mean, yeah, Miranda is killing it. Again, making people making somebody making the entire room just quiet down just to hear you breathe or purse your lips and like the entire world just upside down is just insane. Um, the moment that really kills me is um okay, so we talk about I already kind of hinted at it when we talked when uh when they were talking about the cerulean and how you know she thought Andy thought that her choices at the bottom barrel sweater that she bought was like kind of her choice, and uh Miranda um reads her for filth there. But it's cerulean did you notice like when when they hold up the two belts and they're like, oh my god, these are so different, and Andy laughs. The way Miranda whipped her fucking head around, I thought she was gonna brick her shit. Like, listen, if that was me, I was just slowly backing out of the room and I was leaving. Like, I'm not staying there for this.

SPEAKER_02 16:04

Andy, right, I understand not being like this fashionista, right? But at least have some goddamn attention to detail. Like the belt buckles were clearly different, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, they were. The fact that she didn't even pick that up was just I feel like they were going a little too far to make because we know she's not stupid, she's not vapid.

SPEAKER_01 16:23

So for them to be like, oh, they look the same to me.

SPEAKER_02 16:26

It was like, no, they don't. Like, what do you mind you, right? I do have a note here. I thought the outfit was terrible.

SPEAKER_03 16:33

Like, I did not. I like the outfit.

SPEAKER_02 16:35

The dress with the belt with the blazer?

SPEAKER_03 16:37

I no, no, the blazer was trash. I don't know what the fuck the blazer was doing, but I like that I like the dress and then the hat. I was like, what the fuck is that?

SPEAKER_01 16:45

Okay, all right. I mean that that whole completed thing. I was like, oh, this is no no no no no no no no no no it was like way too much.

SPEAKER_03 16:52

I'm trying to be different, but that's just me, you know, you like the match. But I did like the contrast of the red with the cerulea or the blue uh belt. I did like that, but the rest with the fucking like orange, red jacket, and then the yellow hat was just like, okay, you're just picking up shit at this point, but whatever, I'm not that person. Um but yeah, like but Miranda is captivating, but also a terrible boss. Like, this is like we already hinted, this is like one of the most toxic work environments I've ever seen in a movie. There's there's they're shouting instructions at like a million miles a minute. There's no clear expectation, there's no room for mistakes, there's no ability to ask questions, and then there's constant pressure with zero guidance. I mean, Emily is over here trying to fit into a size zero for the longest while she pretty much doesn't eat until she's about to pass out, and then she eats a cube of cheese. I'm like, oh, an anorexia a little? Like, okay, this is cool. I was like, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:54

The um when when Miranda came in and started just barking orders, uh barking, but start giving orders to to Emily. I'm like, does she have a tape recorder? And I'm like, how does she not have a tape recorder on her at all times, knowing that you work for this woman, and she's just gonna give you a string of instructions and information, and you're just supposed to remember that? Oh my god, that shit. There was times I was feeling overwhelmed. I'm like, damn, I could not like I feel like I worked decently under pressure. Nah, man, like that that environment would have would have cooked me. Like, I I do not think I would survive that. That is way too much.

SPEAKER_03 18:36

That's way the there. I was sir, like I I wouldn't have made it the first day. I'm gonna be very honest. Like, yeah, that's way too much information, way too fast. And then, like, especially if you're not coming from that world, like she wasn't, like, you have no idea who these are who the fuck is the martier? Like, who is that?

SPEAKER_01 18:54

And she keeps shouting about you have him, like, okay, but later when she was on the phone and she's like, Can you spell gabbana? Like, that's too much. Yeah, like I'm like, dude, everybody knows those are gabbana man.

SPEAKER_02 19:05

Like, so that's where Andy's like level of ignorance, it was a little too uneven. Because most of the time, I'm like, Yeah, I'm with you, girl. I don't know what this stuff is, but then there's like basic shit where it's like the belt buckle, or what's how do you spell gabbana? I'm like, can you can you stop? Like, you already made it clear that you're not part of this world, but like you don't have to be like borderline and idiot in the world, you know. Like that's that I thought I was a little bit too much.

SPEAKER_03 19:30

Yeah, they were they were definitely playing it too much there. Um, and it did, it did kind of take away from the movie, but it wasn't too bad, but yeah, it's yeah. I don't know why they did that because in the other scenes, they made it, they made it very obvious she was smart, like she had the credentials. They they they made her, which I think they get she got a shift to Stanford Law. So obviously she's not a ass. She's not a she she's not an ass hat. Like she knows what like basic shit, and there's like basic things you need to pick up on very quickly. And she was just like struggling, and it was just like, I don't know what I'm doing, and it was like, come on, bro. Like, yeah, that thing though, with like yeah, I I would always I would constantly like as soon as she walked through the door, click record because I can't do shit with this, or you're just cranking out notes and shorthanding it, like you pretty much just have a book and a pen in your hand, like constantly. Yeah, yeah, like because there's no way to process that kind of information that quickly and not fuck it up 100%.

SPEAKER_02 20:32

Couple times um when Andy had to get like coffee. I was like, dude, I said there's no way this coffee order is correct.

SPEAKER_03 20:37

That fucking order would have been water if it was me. Because listen, I don't know what the fuck he just said to me.

SPEAKER_02 20:42

Dude, just unex um unrealistic expectations being set. But can we talk about um maybe my favorite just

Emily Blunt Crushed It

SPEAKER_02 20:53

Emily Blunt crushed her role, like she didn't have and I I felt like because later on in the movie we saw less of her, I guess because she was lay up in a hospital. Uh well obviously she didn't go to Paris, so we wouldn't have seen her, but Emily Blunt was amazing. Like everything, everything she said was just so funny, and like that's like she helped make Anne Hathaway's job so easy. Um not in a movie because she made Andy's job a nightmare, but just yeah, what Emily Blunt was giving us uh on screen and just her little her little one-offs, her little quick comments and everything. Oh my gosh, she was cracking me up. I thought she was great.

SPEAKER_03 21:35

There's that scene um when when Emily, I'm sorry, uh well for those who haven't seen it, because Miranda, I guess, can't be bothered to learn the new girl's name, she just calls Emily, she calls Andy Emily, but there's also an Emily there. So you're kind of like, who the fuck is she talking to half the time? But okay, whatever. So there's a time there's a point where Andy fucks up badly, and um You know, she's trying to make it up and she tells Emily, the real Emily, wish me luck. And Emily Blonce's like, nope, shan't. And I kept typing. I was like, I fucking rolled. She did not give a shit. Listen.

SPEAKER_02 22:16

Even when that first um, because Miranda's character was very funny too, just in a different way. But when she was like, Emily, Emily. So in my mind, I'm like, oh shit, she doesn't know that Emily went upstairs to go handle a thing. Not I didn't know she was talking to Andy. So like Andy's room.

SPEAKER_01 22:34

I'm like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_02 22:35

So she like walks over and she's like, oh hey, Emily.

SPEAKER_01 22:38

I said, oh fuck, she's talking to her.

SPEAKER_03 22:42

Oh man.

SPEAKER_01 22:43

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 22:44

Nigel's in there. He's like, she's talking to you. She's like, oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:48

Hey. Tucci was great.

SPEAKER_02 22:50

Like, he was probably the he was the least toxic of them all, but he was not, you know, always the most helpful. But he was more helpful to Andy than Emily was for sure. But when Andy first walked in that room, right? And um Miranda dressed her down with her fucking eyes and hit her with the first. That's all. That is all or whatever.

SPEAKER_03 23:15

Ooh, that's all. Oof. Oof. You could feel that sizzle through the fucking screen, big dog. I'm telling you. I would have quit.

SPEAKER_01 23:28

I cannot come back after this. Head to toe. Just looked at her.

SPEAKER_03 23:34

That's all. Oh my god. Freaking Nigel, Nigel, who's his name, tried to help her. He's like, hey, I guess you're a nine or nine and a half, whatever. Tried to give her shoes. She's like, I don't need she said, she said, actually, this shit made me laugh. Andy says, Oh, Miranda knows what I look like. I don't need to change. Uh, Nigel's like, do you? And freaking walked away. Like, ah, this is crazy. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 24:05

Oh, hey, I'll give Andy credit. Her um her self-esteem is incredibly high. Okay? Yeah, I was eating. It had to be to survive that first day. Because they were destroying her left and right.

SPEAKER_03 24:18

Yeah. I almost feel like it's one of those where like you don't realize how bad it is because I guess you're not part of the world. So like you're kind of like, oh, whatever.

SPEAKER_02 24:28

But listen, remember when she went to her friends and said, hey, I got this job or whatever. And her boyfriend was like, was it a phone interview? Her fucking friends know she's a slob.

SPEAKER_03 24:38

Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my gosh. That was pretty fucked up. That was kind of the intro of me not liking fucking whatever the boyfriend's name is.

SPEAKER_02 24:46

Yeah, well, you know what? And I didn't re uh Nate. Nathan? Nate, yeah, yeah. Nate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, when that when that line got delivered, I didn't think I realized that was her boyfriend at the time. Or I didn't realize he said it. And then it shifted to a one-on-one scene with them.

SPEAKER_01 25:00

I was like, wait, wasn't he the motherfucker that just said to her about you look like shit?

SPEAKER_02 25:05

I was like, yo, that is tough. That is tough work, man. I mean, I guess it was all in fun and games, but ugly. That was rough, brutal stuff.

SPEAKER_03 25:16

Yeah. I want to circle back to Nigel again and Emily Blunt. I'm gonna give them their credit because again, without them, if it was just like Meryl Streep and Anne Hathaway, not that Anne Hathaway can't hold her own, especially nowadays, but like, yeah, it could not have a lot of it. It would have got eaten alive, and it'd been a little bit more than a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 25:34

It would have just been the Meryl Streeps little show. Sorry, the Meryl Streeps show and Hathaway would have been hanging on for dear life 100%.

SPEAKER_03 25:41

Yeah, for sure. Um, yeah, so I think Nigel does a great job of a balance. Um, you know, one minute he's kind of like, who's this sad little person? And the woman is like literally standing there, and the next minute, you know, he's like helping her out, you know, she goes to him when after the final like breakdown of her character when she finally starts feeling and starts crying a little bit, and she's asking for like why can't I be recognized? You know, I'm doing a good job, I'm breaking myself down, and he is like, Are you? Because you're like, This is a great speech. I mean, I didn't do I didn't do word for word. Do you have a word for word or no?

SPEAKER_02 26:20

I don't know. But go ahead. I don't have this.

SPEAKER_03 26:22

Oh, okay, okay. All right, cool. So I don't have word for word, but yeah, he like breaks her down of like you think just because you showed up, you just supposed to get his gold star, but like there's there's all this art here and all this history here, and all these um key people in the world and in in life that have walked these hallways and you don't even care. You haven't even bothered to learn it, and you just want and you just want a gold star because you showed up and did one thing right. You wanted to kiss your forehead and and you know tell you you did a good job, but you're not even putting the work into actually envelop the role and the opportunity that you that you were given that you know a million they've repeatedly said a million girls would kill for this role, and you're just like spitting at it because you're not getting the credit that you want. And you know, she's crying and she's breaking it down, but you know, he's just like, yo, you don't deserve it. Like this place is a beacon of hope for you know the young girls.

SPEAKER_02 27:22

So many people.

SPEAKER_03 27:23

The young, he even I think he referenced himself there where he says the young kid who's pretending to w watch foot or soccer or football or the hell, but he's actually reading Runway and you know imagining his life and stuff like that. So yeah, he had to he had to like he had to calm it out because she like she truly wasn't doing that, she truly was not buying in at all.

SPEAKER_02 27:44

And um I I can give you the beginning and the end of that, right? But he because he said to her, he said, Andy, be serious, you are not trying. You know, he said, You are whining. And he said, What is it? You want me to say to you? Poor you, Miranda's picking on you, poor you, poor Andy. And he said, Wake up! And literally, that was his whole message. Wake up, you're not even trying. And yeah, that was kind of jarring for me in the movie because I was like, Wait, this mascot was not trying, and she's here completely because she all of a sudden got good at her job, just because she tried, she started to try, you know, and um, so that was a little off-putting for her character, where it was like, Come on, man, like you you bought, yes, Miranda is rough, so let's not this is not to say that Miranda is easy, like she's still a toxic boss, toxic work environment, but you came, as you said, you came day one, not even knowing who the hell she is, and not knowing what really happens there at your job. Like, come on, man, that's an unserious person. So from the time she got serious, it was like, all right, cool, let's now now she's starting to cook, you know. But yeah, he that was a hell of a speech. Nigel um Tucci nailed it with that one for sure.

SPEAKER_03 29:02

Convinces Nigel to uh give her a makeover, not only the clothes is she paying for this clothes? Like, does she have to give it back? Like, what's happening there?

SPEAKER_01 29:11

Dude, that was one of my um one of my questions. I I was watching her, I was like, did I think is she taking his clothes home like from the office? Like, can she do that?

SPEAKER_03 29:22

Like, what is is he like undressing back into her like frumpy clothes? I know, like, does she like what is she doing?

SPEAKER_02 29:28

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was weird. I wasn't sure what was going on either. Um I don't know. Yeah, yeah. I had the same question that you did.

SPEAKER_03 29:35

But either way, you know, she she uh she convinces Nigel to give her a makeover, which he does. Um, he's able to find some size sixes mysteriously in there, even though he says the closet is only two and four. So I was like, well, where'd the six come from?

SPEAKER_02 29:47

I think there were fours that she was squeezing into. I think that's what it was.

SPEAKER_03 29:51

Once she transitioned or whatever, the whole makeup makeover sequence um with pose playing in the background, which pose is you know iconic by itself by Madonna as well. I thought it was a perfect little background music of that was a nice scene.

SPEAKER_02 30:04

I like that montage. I went back and counted her outfits because um when she showed up to work and Miranda was like, like, who are you? Or like what happened? I'm like, she just wore seven different outfits. So have you not seen her all week or what?

SPEAKER_03 30:20

Yeah, I assume that Miranda was maybe out of town or whatever, or something. Okay and um that works.

SPEAKER_02 30:30

I'll I'll accept that explanation. Yeah, because what do you mean? She didn't expect that seventh one, yeah. And I knew the first outfit was like at the end of the day, Miranda already left, but the other six that we saw throughout that montage, I'm like, what she didn't see this.

SPEAKER_03 30:45

Do you think that you could work in this environment, not just the night, the nine of five typically? This is like a 24-hour on-call lifestyle where you're working from like 6 a.m. to midnight, you're getting calls, like literally during hurricanes for her to get her boss where she needs to be. You have 15 minutes for lunch, which again, I'm pretty sure that that provides some labor laws, but 100%. Yeah, the tasks don't even make sense. Like, another thing I didn't understand is oh, oh, go ahead. Now I'll let you answer and then I'll keep going.

SPEAKER_02 31:20

I was gonna answer your question. Yeah, no, uh, so the answer right now, absolutely not. Like, I have a fucking family. You know what I'm saying? Like, I can't do that. In my 20s, mate,

Can Omari Survive?

SPEAKER_02 31:30

uh so in my 20s, in the window of time where I'm not in college, and let's say like I'm single or I don't care about my girlfriend or something, maybe I could try because because if you care about your personal life, like you can't do this job. That's the that's the that's the fact, you know. So yeah, um, so let's say that's the window of time I'm looking at in my life. I don't uh nah, I don't I would I would have I would have to have a passion for that industry, like how um Nigel was about about it. If I had a passion for fashion, wow, didn't look gross, didn't mean to rhyme, but um fashion.

SPEAKER_01 32:15

I know, I know.

SPEAKER_02 32:16

Oh, episode title. No, don't do that. There you go. Um, yeah, so if I was really about it, then I could see myself sucking it, sucking it up and being like, oh, this is what I gotta do. I'm next to this great person, and you know, like the opportunities, I can see the vision. Um, I can see myself figuring out how to adapt in that um environment. But like I said, the parameters have to be I don't have any kids, my social life is kind of uh, and I'm really into fashion. If I was Andy, no, I don't know how she did that job or why she did that job because she didn't care. And wish she has a uh a law degree and she wanted to do journalism, which her dad was like, okay, you graduated from law school and then you left that profession to do journalism, you're not even doing that right now. So that's what didn't make sense. Whereas like we got a little more fleshing out of her character with her dad, and that kind of hurt because her motivations just don't make sense. We never learned what Andy's motivations are. I have no idea why an individual like Andy would do that job. It that's the most hard.

SPEAKER_03 33:21

I mean, they did try to they did try to explain it, right? They did say that you know, if she survives one year, then she'll have the pick of the litter in that industry as far as writing, apparently, because the industry not only encompassed fashion, but there's writers, there's magazines, there's new york uh newspapers, there's you know, all these things happening.

SPEAKER_02 33:43

They said that at the beginning of the movie, right?

SPEAKER_03 33:46

Uh well, she said it, they said it in the beginning of the movie as when she was trying to explain to the to her friends, and then again when her father was like, Why are you doing this job? This makes sense. We're worried about you.

SPEAKER_02 33:58

So in my mind though, she said that believing that at some point in time she was actually gonna start writing for the magazine.

SPEAKER_03 34:06

She never Oh no, I didn't I didn't think that.

SPEAKER_02 34:08

I thought that she was like, she wanted to write because she said it was either here or somewhere else. Because I don't know, I'm watching her as she wants to be a journalist, she wants to be in journalism, she wants to write articles. That that's yeah, so that's how I'm viewing her go through this movie, which is why I say it doesn't make sense to me. Because this is not a path to get to that, it really isn't. Yeah, she has she can make connections and stuff, but after surviving this year, you've written nothing, you have all these connections, you have no work to show that you actually can write a good story. So, how does this experience really help her?

SPEAKER_03 34:39

Yeah, I think but she did have work though, because remember when the the ran, I don't know the random dude's name. The random dude who's been hitting on her the whole time, yeah. You know, he said that she sent over like uh a packet full of stuff. So she does have stuff she's written and stuff like that. Like this isn't like her first first job. It's just she just feels like this is like a gateway to give like whatever she wants.

SPEAKER_02 35:02

This is a huge networking opportunity, essentially.

SPEAKER_03 35:04

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, if I do this and I survive and I do a good enough job that I could say I I did I work Miranda Priestley for um shit, what a magazine name is Runway.

SPEAKER_02 35:17

Runway runway, thank you.

SPEAKER_03 35:18

Almost said vogue. I was like, it's not vogue. I work with Miranda Priestly for a runway, and I survived. And just hearing that she should have the pick of the litter of whatever she wanted to do next. So it's like a year of shitty to then do whatever she wanted to next is apparently like what's supposed to happen. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 35:37

So to that to my own information then, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:41

Yeah. She still wasn't prepared at all, but you know, yeah, sure. To my own question, I think that I think I also could have been alright. I think I I would have done alright there. I'm not a fashion person either, but with that mindset of I have to suck it up for a year, I have to give my all to this job for a year, and then I could have the pick up a litter like next, yeah. Yeah, I could do it. Yeah, um, not now. My memory is shit now, but in my 20s, oh yeah. I I would I used to be able to process her bitch like crazy. So I'd have been fine to like just hear it and be like, all right, cool, cool, cool, cool. But now I'd be like, first of all, what'd you say? I mean I'm not fucking asking her who to spell fucking uh gabana, but yeah. We talk about this book. There's a book of I guess the drawings and mock-ups of the the uh monthly um uh uh magazine that was coming out that either Emily or Andy has to deliver to Miranda's house. Um there's very, very, very strict rules that Emily tells Andy, and Andy immediately says, Fuck you, I got it. I don't know why. So the rules were don't talk to anyone. The rules were put the cloth put her dry cleaner up in the closet and then put the book on the first floor uh desks with the flowers. Now, given there were plenty of desks with flowers, but common sense immediately she Yeah, common sense is probably the one that's close to the door, but fine, whatever. So immediately she does put the jack. No, she goes in, walks in, doesn't know what to do. The twins are some reason there, and the Miranda has twins there, and they start talking to her, and Emily decides to talk back. First mistake, but they do help her, so I guess she feels like she gains their trust. Uh I don't know, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 37:34

They did, they did put the stuff they set her up, they tried to gain her trust so they could fuck her in the end.

SPEAKER_03 37:40

They they did they did they immediately set her up. They're like, hey, give us the book. Emily does it all the time. I was like, first of all, I'm not listening to you little 10-year-old fucking demon children. Like, get away from me.

SPEAKER_02 37:50

I know. I was like, are you serious? I was like, you really don't get outsmarted by two kids? Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 37:57

She did.

SPEAKER_02 37:57

She did a lot of stupid shit in this book.

SPEAKER_03 37:59

Again, I wasn't showing up after this. Like, I was just gonna not I don't I was not coming back. I don't understand how she kept coming back. I was not coming back after this.

SPEAKER_02 38:06

You have to just the I was out.

SPEAKER_03 38:12

That was fucking hilarious. This is the the impossible task and tests. Um Miranda's pissed off, but she doesn't scream, she doesn't yell, she's still very quiet, still very like matter of fact, but she uh then it's the next day, Andy's fucked up, she didn't follow directions, yep, um, and the impossible task begins. So we start out with Miranda asking for a steak. Um, a steak from a restaurant that's not open, but she wants the steak in 15 minutes. But okay, okay. We're gonna we're gonna eat that. This steak is perfectly cooked and fine. It looked great, it looked delicious. I wanted to eat it, I'm gonna be honest. The next task damn, you give you gave it away. Yes. Oh, sorry, sorry. So um just cut that out. No, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine. No, no, no, I'm not doing it.

SPEAKER_02 39:08

Um, next class, and then I spoke. You just cut it out.

SPEAKER_03 39:12

No, no, no, no. Omari steals my stunder. It's fine, no big deal. We're gonna leave this in so everybody knows who you really are. Um so fucking Miranda. As soon as she brings a stick, she immediately says, What the fuck is this? I'm having lunch outside with blah blah blah blah blah. I was like, man, she had deserves to be stabbed. I'm gonna be honest. I don't know. She was fucked up, but okay, cool. She's she's she's trying to rattle her because she's pissed off. So okay, cool. We're in this scene. The next task is the twins are on their way to uh grandma's house via train. I don't know, whatever. And the twins want the new Harry Potter book. So Andy says, Oh, okay, I'll go to Barnes and Noble, I'll get you the book. Rana says, Um, did you fall and hit your little head? Uh they already have the new book, they want the one that's unpublished and fucking full stop. Is she truly asking her assistant, who has no connection in this world, to find the Harry Potter unpublished manuscript for her in four hours. Let's say that in four hours. The train is 12 o'clock this lunchtime-ish. The train takes over four. She has four hours to do this. Like, what the fuck is this? Except for a setup. This was nothing but a setup. She wanted her to fail, so she had a justify justification to fire her and be like, oh, you're trash. Um do you think that this task is doable?

SPEAKER_02 40:48

No, of course not. Of course not.

SPEAKER_03 40:52

Like carrying on my weird son. Um somehow she pulls it off. Uh and Miranda now sees her as number one, especially since freaking Emily. Like, not only that, Emily is starting to blow it a little bit. She gets sick and then walks into the office sick as a dog, like sneezing everywhere. I'm like, how did the whole fucking boardroom meeting? Like, what the f yeah, it was gross. It was gross. I was like, how did not everybody get sick after that? Because that was way too close, and everybody just coughing, but okay, I guess everybody has superhuman.

SPEAKER_02 41:26

I kind of thought Miranda was gonna get sick and be just fucking burned a place down and be so mad and like fire Emily because she had coughed right by her ear. It was crazy.

SPEAKER_03 41:35

Yeah. I was like, damn. And then the hands are like papers. I'm like, what the fuck? Why did she do with that?

SPEAKER_02 41:43

So so that that I don't think they let me ask you, do you feel like

Emily Fall From Grace

SPEAKER_02 41:50

they handled that fall from Grace from Emily well and Andy's ascension?

SPEAKER_03 41:55

No, it happened way too fast. It was like it was uh it was way too fast. It didn't make no sense because Emily put in time and work. Correct. Like, she's done the work, she's done the the long hours, she's done it all, and it just took like one mistake, she forgot one name, and then she was sick, and they were like, Okay, well, you done. I was like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_02 42:15

Not only is that we saw her running late and stuff, like Emily started making mistakes, like she wasn't making those mistakes before. So, like, they need to give us like maybe she has something stressful happening at home because it was like it was out of character for Emily to be making these mistakes where she's forgetting names, running late, coming in there, coughing up a storm and all that stuff. Like, it's just yeah, it was just out of character, just so that they could prop Andy up to be like, oh, we gotta get Andy to Paris. So, how do we do that? You know, and then we end up sideline sidelining one of the best characters of the movie. So I didn't really care for that.

SPEAKER_03 42:49

So if you if you haven't figured it out, Emily loses her spot, and he takes it over. Omari, are you taking Emily's spot for Paris?

SPEAKER_02 42:58

No.

SPEAKER_03 43:00

Absolutely, absolutely, I like it. Yeah, no, I also am not taking Emily's spot for Paris. I mean that's not my like okay, I want to do a good job, yes, but yes, that isn't my passion the way it is for Emily, and it'd be like a waste of it'd be a waste for me to have that spot. Like, no, so I'm not taking it, and if she wanted to like fire me out of that, like whatever. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 43:25

Again, I do not really care for her boyfriend, but we are led to believe that she cares about her boyfriend. So to even like just take that two without even having a conversation with him, it was just I I don't know. I don't know what they were I don't know what they were trying to do here. That was um that was weird. Yeah, that would have been an easy note. And did this show her flirt with the idea of saying, Oh, I I can't, but I can't. And Miranda's like Okay And and he's like, I guess I will, you know, but it's just like dude No, just don't go. You don't want to go anyway, you know.

SPEAKER_03 44:04

So yeah, you don't really want to go. It's not your thing. Uh you were prepping to not go. Um at the time, even though Emily was fucking up a little bit, she she was still, you know, able to go. So um unfortunately Miranda forces or tells Andy that she needs to tell Emily that she can't go. Emily decides to call her while she's running late with some skirts or scarfs or whatever. I don't know. And then Emily gets hit by a car. Like she gets hit why they do that.

SPEAKER_02 44:35

Why they do that?

SPEAKER_03 44:36

Hit her with a car?

SPEAKER_02 44:37

Yeah. Oh, because she couldn't have gone to Paris anyway because she got hit by the car. So why introduce that? I just thought that was. I didn't like that. First, I had a note saying that I actually thought that um Andy would be the one to get hit by a car like early on because she was struggling crossing the streets and stuff. But to see Emily actually get hit by a car, and I'm like, well, this kind of takes the the sting out of the whole, well, I'm going to Paris and not you, because she broke her damn leg. She got hit hard. Like she couldn't have gone to Paris even if she was still crushing it at work. So yeah, I don't know. It kind of let Andy off a little easier, where it's like, well, I guess I might as well go, you can't go. It kind of became that, I feel.

SPEAKER_03 45:22

Yeah, exactly. And to be honest, I I if I had decided that I wasn't I was gonna go, her take if I was gonna take her spot, and if she got hit by the car, I wouldn't have told her. Like, I'd be like, No, you can't go anyway. I wasn't gonna tell her there was no point for me to do that.

SPEAKER_02 45:39

Yeah, that's yeah, so that was weird. I didn't I didn't care about it. It was kind of weird.

SPEAKER_03 45:44

I don't know why she got hit by the car. I mean, yeah, yeah, I don't I really don't know. It's unnecessary because she was already not going, so whatever. So I don't know. So let's talk about the friendship. We kind of hinted at it. Oh, yes, and these friends. I don't like how they handle her situation at all.

SPEAKER_04 46:04

Ugh.

SPEAKER_03 46:05

She's clearly working a very demanding job, trying to keep up with something that's completely new, and instead of supporting her, there's this one scene where um Miranda calls her and they play keep away with her phone and they're laughing and joking. Oh god. And I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah, like how old are you guys? Like, what the fuck? Like, you know, it's not like this is like the first day, and you're like, ha ha ha ha. Like, you know the pressure she's under, you know how hard she's working, and they're just like, it's so funny. Like, yeah, I don't understand that. What was that?

SPEAKER_02 46:37

I I I was so lost, and I'm like, dude, these people are so childish. And so I have one more positive thing to say about Nate before I started drag him. Um, we skipped it earlier, but when he uh Nate and her were in the kitchen, uh he made her the grilled cheese, which I don't know how old they're supposed to be, but anyway, he made her a grilled cheese for like breakfast or something or lunch or whatever, and she's like, I don't even want it. And he was like, There's eight dollars of Yalsberg in that sandwich. He's like, That shit laid me out, right? But part of that, right, is he's complaining about like the finances and stuff, but then he's like keep urging her to quit her fucking job. And I'm like, dude, you cannot afford that apartment in New York City, you can't by yourself. So it's like you want her to just quit so that you and he he didn't have like some high-paying job, he was kind of an artist too. He was a cook or something, right?

SPEAKER_03 47:32

Yeah, I think he's like a line chef or a line chef. A line cook or something, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:37

And he hadn't hit it big either, so it's like, yo, like, dude, like you, he was so unsupportive, right? And I do not feel like the movie did a good job of because the friends are treating her like, oh my gosh, who are you? I don't recognize you, you're this whole different person. I'm like, she's the same fucking person, she's just combing her hair now and dressing. No, I'm so serious. She they had needed to show us Andy acting like a bitch towards them or something, and she wasn't doing that. Even when she got stuck at work and she was legitimately stuck, and then when she was leaving at home, boy tried to like flirt with her and tell her, nah, come and stay. She was like, I really have to go. And she still missed her birthday, yes. But what we are seeing as an audience is that Andy is still committed to her relationship and trying to juggle the new job and her friendships and her relationship, and they're just treating her like shit. So I'm like, who am I supposed to hate here? Because it's not Andy. Even all the flaws and stuff we talked about, we picked on and stuff. Like, Andy's not like this greatly unlikable person where she's just out here being terrible, and like these fucking friends are the goddamn worst. Her that girl saw Lily saw some dude kiss her on the cheek, and this bitch went immediately judgmental on her, like, oh, I can't believe this, and who are you, and what are you, and all this stuff. Hey, you the same mother scott that just took that fucking free bag from her a few weeks ago saying how great this was. So it's like they pick a lane, people. I that turned me off. So I had to pause it. I just paused it because I was like, what movie am I in right now? Like something went wrong there. I don't know. I didn't like any of that.

SPEAKER_03 49:21

I didn't like it either. I absolutely like they were too old. I mean, they're not all old, they're in their 20s or whatever, but they were still too old for like what was happening. Like Nate, you know, she missed his birthday, but I'm like, how old are you? Like, relax. Like, you know, like she has the job. Like, come on, bro. Like, she showed up, she came up with a nice little uh cupcake and a sorry and blah blah blah. Yeah, and you know, I like I'd have been like, oh, I mean, hey, that sucks, but I get it, I get it. And maybe we could celebrate in the weekend or whatever, whatever. Like, come on, bro. Like, it was just they were just completely unsupportive.

SPEAKER_02 49:53

He he waited up for her, and then when she got home, I'm going to bed. So, what's the fucking thing? Why were you up? Why are you up? That was stupid. Like, come on, dude. I oh my god. Listen, right? I feel like this is my last thing on this, right? I feel like everybody wants her to stand up to Miranda. Like, because even like with Emily, Emily did get mad with her. Rightfully so, I understand why Emily got mad for her taking the job and stuff, but like Emily, her friends, everybody wants her to stand up to Miranda

Stand up to Miranda

SPEAKER_02 50:20

when literally no one else around her does that. So I'm like, so why should I as a viewer feel that, well, Andy should be better than everyone else, and she should be this righteous person, and she should be the one to put her foot down with no, the like I don't feel that she should. I feel like she's just trying to get by and she's doing it at varying levels of success. Sometimes she's blowing it, sometimes she's doing good, but the movie is like treating it like Andy is supposed to be the fucking chosen one or something, and be the one to like soften Miranda up or stand up to her, and the movie did no work to make me feel or think that about her, but all the other characters felt that way about her. So I I don't know. I I that didn't work for me at all.

SPEAKER_03 51:02

Yeah, definitely a huge dip uh dip dip or dink on the the whole situation. Yeah, um also yeah, so yeah, I wish she had better friends and and a better boyfriend. I don't want to say better, but like more supportive because because I I agree, she did not change who she was, except she combed her hair. But she still was still actively herself, she still was quiet, she still was sharing things and cracking jokes with them, cracking jokes, and you know, when when she's there, she's very you know, when she's there and not on the phone, she is participating and stuff like that. Um, and yeah, they all turned on her almost immediately because essentially she wasn't as available and you know doing the things exactly the way she used to, and it's just like, yeah, she's she's becoming an adult, she's growing up, like that's how life is a little, especially in the beginning of your career. Like, yeah, it's shitty. That's how it is, and you just move on. But yeah, they suck. Um, so we we have uh we have the whole drama in so now uh she's in Paris. We have I guess she's kind of broken up, kinda not. I don't really know what's happening, but fine. She she's in Paris. Um there's kind of she dude who's been harassing her the whole time whose name I don't know. He finally gets her. I guess he finally gets her, uh, gets her into bed, and while she's there, she stumbles upon some kind of uh draft of a plan in which they plan to uh uh out Miranda from one way, um, replace her with her her uh enemy, friendemy, whatever you want to call her, Jacqueline. Jacqueline! Jacqueline! And that's my friend for the day, folks. Uh replace her with her friendemy, Jacqueline, who's apparently younger and cheaper uh to and does the same thing. Uh Andy is distraught of like, how could you do this? Secretly, Stanley Tucci is celebrating because he thinks he's about to get a they they jammed this like final act together in such a crazy way.

SPEAKER_01 53:23

Okay, so you sound like you're lost too.

SPEAKER_02 53:26

I got lost. Yeah. You we did skip over the the the little um date thing that they went on, right? Because um Who uh Andy and uh dude, the dude, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He he started giving off like real rapey vibes, and I was just like, this dude, and the whole it was funny because I didn't like her boyfriend, but I was like, I don't think I don't like this dude either, you know?

SPEAKER_03 53:49

No, no, he was trash too. I don't know, I just slept with him.

SPEAKER_02 53:52

I was like, is this movie like trying to make me feel like this is the dude? Because I don't think this is a leave this guy for that guy situation. I'm like, F both these guys, but no, and and then they they he this guy is I don't know, he's like really persistent, and I struggle with saying persistent, very persistent, that's not like that indicates an endaring quality, it's rapey, okay? And like she tells him no, like three fucking times, and I'm just like, Well, there you go, fellas. Three no's equal a yes. Because she they end up having sex after she's like, nah, no, I'm drunk. Okay, fine. I was like, God damn, like this movie. This that was so very 2000s of that movie to do that. I was like, ugh, yeah, and then and then it stumbled on that thing that you said, but that whole storyline, because we had such a uh heartwarming scene with Nigel and Andy, where he came, he was celebrating, and we saw this drawing him, and he was just so excited to get this job, and then he didn't get it, but then I feel like the movie didn't care that he didn't get it. No, they didn't so I don't I'm I really want to hear your takes on how this movie ended because I it it it lost me, and I was having fun, but it lost me at the very ending.

SPEAKER_03 55:16

Yeah, it's like they wanted to reward Nigel and then they took it away because rewarding Nigel meant that Miranda's out and she's like, you can't Miranda can't lose. Like she's just it didn't matter. Like, even I even have the note here. Um, besides all of that happening, we also have Miranda is mysteriously not mysteriously, Miranda is also going through a divorce in the middle of it. Yeah, and the divorce storyline is I honestly don't care. I didn't care about Miranda's personal life. She didn't give me anything that like humanized her where I felt bad, like, oh my god, I now understand her because her personal struggle, blah blah blah. Like, I really didn't care. Like, whatever.

SPEAKER_02 55:56

She is who she is.

SPEAKER_03 55:57

Okay, she is who she is, like, whatever. This is not about her, really, so yeah, it didn't really, it was just like this added peace that I don't it didn't add anything, it didn't take away for anything.

SPEAKER_00 56:09

It just changed. It didn't change her. She was the same person as then exactly.

SPEAKER_03 56:15

Like she had like a millisecond of some vulnerability of like her ears a little red or whatever, and then immediately Annie's like, oh my god, oh my god, you need me to cancel your date. Just the day, do you mean to cancel your date? She's like, for what? Are you crazy? Like, you need to do your job, do your job is literally her statement. And I'm like, oh, okay, I guess she doesn't care. So if you don't care, why the fuck do I care? Because I don't. So, and then so yeah, so this ending, uh they just try to jam a lot into it. There's this takeover, there's this promotion, and then none of it happens, and Miranda is kind of just always in the background pulling the strings.

SPEAKER_02 56:55

Fucking Sherlock Holmes all of a sudden, or some bullshit.

SPEAKER_04 56:58

Like, she's like, You think I didn't know? Yeah, you think I didn't know?

SPEAKER_02 57:02

I absolutely knew. Yeah, this whole flashback montage, oh, yeah, well, this conversation from this conversation, and I made this happen. I'm like, where the fuck is this element coming from in the movie all of a sudden? Like, that was it didn't make sense to me at all. At all.

SPEAKER_03 57:16

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:18

And then like Andy is like broken up about the Nigel thing, and so am I. And I'm like, can we deal with that? And we just we just didn't deal with it, even because she did she whispered on her breath, I couldn't do that to Nigel. Well, no, she did re acknowledge it. She said, Well, you you did, you did it to Emily, right? So all is still not the same, man, because like I I believed that Nigel was the one person that she kind of liked, like Miranda. You know, uh, I mean Miranda, like I I felt that she felt somewhat finely towards Nigel, you know? And she just stabbed him in the back and treated him like shit, and it didn't matter. So I'm like, okay, why are you giving us this moment of vulnerability on the couch with the divorce thing? And then immediately because I was like, and then she said, do your job, right? So I'm like, okay, this is where Miranda she's gonna start to soften on her, and she's gonna be like, she's hiding. Oh my god, she she she's becoming affectionate towards Andy, but she's gonna hide it through her rough exterior stuff. She can't. No, she was the same fucking person because what she did to Nigel was very callous and cold-blooded, and we didn't see her, even if they had given us an opportunity where like we saw like a wistful look or like some type of regret in her eyes or something, even if she didn't say anything out loud, because Meryl Streep is capable of communicating that with her fucking face or acting, but they didn't give us that. It was just like Miranda's like, it doesn't matter. I won. I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_03 58:46

He was another another face in a room. Yeah, he was he was he was nobody in that time. Even Andy acts like, you know, oh, I think uh uh Nigel says, Oh, you know, she'll pay me back, you know, when the time comes. And Annie's like, Are you sure? He's like, No, I'm not. And they're just like, Oh, something, yeah. Keep going on then. So, yeah, they I wanted I felt more bad for Nigel losing out on it because he's been with her for 16 years, he's constantly getting 18 years, he's constantly getting praise, you know. Everybody else in the room is saying shit, and she's like, You're trash, and he says something, and she's like, Oh, at least someone showing up the work. Like, yeah, so he deserved it, and it was fucked up for sure.

SPEAKER_02 59:28

Ugh. So to add on top an already confusing like trek to the finish line, like we have now this reunion with with with with Andy and her boyfriend. Like, what'd you make of that interaction and that conversation?

SPEAKER_03 59:43

I don't understand what what were they doing? I don't understand what they were doing.

SPEAKER_02 59:49

He started off as like, because they meet and he's like, What? I have someplace to be like fuck you, you know? And by the end of it, he's like, We could go to Boston together. I'm like, what the I had to rewind the conversation because I'm like, what are you doing? Like, did I miss something? But then after that, she was looking for jobs in New York. So did she go to Boston and work remote, or did she go and broke up and come like what was what was that?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:17

Waste of my time is what it was. Okay, all right. They were trying to close the loop because it was unclear of the if they it was unclear if they had actually broken up to me anyway.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:27

And I think they were just trying to close the loop of but that conversation was a perfect opportunity to do that, be like, hey, hey, listen, it didn't work out, you know. Uh yeah, I'm acting like a little whiny bitch, but I still love you, but I do have an opportunity in Boston. I'm gonna go do that. I wish you well, and that was that was it, just do that. But then he made this joke about like, oh, I can make you sandwiches in Boston or something. So that inexpensive. Yeah, I'm pretty sure they have bread in Boston. Yeah, oh okay. So you guys getting back together? I was like, okay, I guess. And then she was looking for jobs in New York, like in the very next scene. And I'm like, okay, I don't I don't know what's going on. I I don't know.

Andy Gets Her Dream Job

SPEAKER_03 1:01:10

So uh and he gets a job working for something, I don't know what that was, but some some some newspaper or whatever is a journalist. Um, she gets a glowing review from a uh Miranda Priestley, which says That's right.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:26

He said it in a weird way.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:27

Yeah, it was weird. She's uh my biggest regret, but if you don't hire her, or big biggest disappointment, but if you don't hire her, you're an idiot. Yeah. Um, so I guess she gets hired based up for that. Man said, Man said, he said, um I called your reference and a snooty woman answered, and then within seconds I got a uh fax from Miranda Miranda Priestly herself. I was like, from herself? Like, you mean her office just sent you a piece of paper? Like, what do you mean a fax directly from her? Like, what the fuck is that? Is that a call? Like, what is a direct fax? What the fuck is that?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:09

I don't because I guarantee you Miranda's not working a fax machine. Like, let's be real.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:13

I'm sure she did not type that shit, she did not go press it out, like she was like, Oh, tell her blah blah blah blah blah and go about your business.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:22

I was a little unclear, right? Of Miranda's power and uh fair and reverence throughout them. It was a little uneven at times because there were certain times where it's like people are falling over themselves for Miranda, and then there's other times they're like, Who? Or like I don't care, like it's like certain people didn't care, so it just I guess I don't know, because even when when um she had called the rapey dude about helping with the manuscript, and he's like, just tell her you can't get it. I was like, What the fuck? That's Miranda, she can't just tell her that. But I'm like, that guy didn't move, like, oh shit, you good luck, like Miranda. He was just like, just tell her it can't be done. I'm like, why would you say that, dude? Like, I thought everyone knows that Miranda, like, you don't eff with Miranda, like she is it, you know. So I just feel like different times of the movie, it was a little unclear of like how much like power or yeah, you know, reverence she has in the world and a larger community.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:20

Yeah. I with that specific with the with that specific part of like tell her you can't get it. I think that the ass was just so large, like God himself couldn't do that typically, but she damn near had God like like power mysteriously.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:34

I feel like his response would have been like shit, like that's gonna be. I feel like his response would have been more like that's tough, like I don't know what you're gonna do, or just get ready to lose your job. Not just for him to be like directly tell her it can't be done. To me, that's an absurd thing to say to the stature that is Miranda. That's that's what I got. That's that's what I meant. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:55

All right. So yeah. Well, Andy tries to redeem herself. She uh calls up Emily, tells her that she has a bunch of clothes from Paris that she can't fit. So Emily gets the clothes that she wanted, which is I guess the point of her going to Paris. Um, mysteriously, Andy's walking down the street, sees Miranda. Miranda gives her kind of annoying look, but doesn't really acknowledge, also. And Andy just kind of takes it as eh, it is what it is, and end scene. And that's the movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:25

That's that's the that's the it just ended. It just ends. That's the movie. And you know what, man?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:33

I'm sorry, this movie was too fucking long.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:37

It was kind of long. The middle dragged like fuck. The middle, I I was I have notes. I was like, after her glow up, it just dragged. And then like it wasn't till the end in which they like jammed all this shit together. They didn't prep it at all with the Nigel thing, with the with the Jacqueline taking over thing. There wasn't like secret meeting, there was nothing happening, except it was happening in the background, but we didn't.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:59

Even the Paris, the Paris thing, which was referenced in the first act, even like the setup to get to Paris, I feel like wasn't done well. And then, like you said, it was like we're in Paris and we have to do all this shit to end the movie. At I at an hour into the movie, like I I looked and it was we had 50 minutes left to go, and I was like, what the f what are we doing for another 50 minutes? Like it just at one point I was like, I'm not even sure what the conflict of this movie is about to be, you know. Like I something took me out of it for me to start wondering these questions, and I think it's just what you were saying, the middle just got it was soft and it started dragging. But yeah, I was just like, I was having fun, but at the same time, I was not looking forward to another hour of the movie. I was like, we can wrap this up. This is good, this is good acting, this is fun stuff, it's funny. But can you guys do a better job of guiding me to where I don't know where we're trying to go with this right now? Like, I know you were gonna go to this Paris thing, but I didn't understand what the big conflict was. Was and then that whole at the oh we're gonna cut Miranda out of the magazine thing, it came out of nowhere. And the fact that I didn't know that was coming from in the second act of the movie, I was like, all right, this I got lost. Uh I my interest waned a little bit, you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:16

For sure, for sure, for sure, for sure. Um, yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna beat a dead horse. Let's get into ranking. Let's do it.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:26

All right. For any newcomers, we rate our

Scoring The Movie Categories

SPEAKER_02 1:06:30

movies based on five categories: plot and writing, act and casting, production cinematography, music and sound, and cultural impact. Everything is rated on a scale of one to ten. Jill, what do you have for plot and writing?

SPEAKER_03 1:06:46

Um, so plot and writing, I definitely in the rewatch, this does this does die down for me. Um, compared to 2006 me, when you know, 16-year-old me. So, I mean, it's not a complex movie. Girl gets a job, girl struggles, girl adapts, she loses herself, realizes, and walk away. Like rinse and repeat. You see that all the time. Yeah, um, the savior was really the cast itself versus the plot in the story. Um, so I give that a four.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:16

Okay. I gave it a five. Um, same thing. Yeah, it's the plot didn't do a whole lot, and we we we opined a lot on those issues. Um acting and casting, what do you have there?

SPEAKER_03 1:07:29

Acting and casting definitely goes goes a lot stronger. We already beat it down, like Meryl Street, Stanley Tucci, Emily Blunt in that order, and then you have Anne Hathaway. Uh but no, strong cast. Uh I gave him a I I had a nine. I think Anne Hathaway actually drags it down. So I'm gonna give it eight.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:55

Okay, so do anything, she was just there.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:58

Yeah, so she dragged it from that's why it's not a ten for me. So I have a nine. Um yeah, so I I did penalize it a little bit because I somehow I feel like we haven't talked enough about Meryl Streep, but like we kind of don't have to. Like, everybody knows Meryl Streep is like she's one of the goats of acting, she's amazing, yeah, and she did great. I saw that she did method acting for this movie, like the only time she's done.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:22

Yeah, she was not, she was she was Miranda the whole time. They were like, nobody could talk to her. Oh my god. I don't I don't think I don't know if this was necessary for this rule, like like it'd be like that kind of rule, but I mean she wants to do what she wants to do.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:36

Yeah, I mean, I I think it was for her. Listen, right? I when you look at like Meryl Streep, like her personality and stuff, I it feels like this is so far away from who she is as a person. She's still kind of like.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:47

You might say she's always nice, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:49

Timid. Like I've watched interviews with her. I saw her on um did you did you watch Only Murders in the Building?

SPEAKER_03 1:08:54

Oh, hell yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:55

Yeah, the fact that she even does that fucking show, like, I mean, don't get me wrong, there's a lot of great actors in it, but it's Meryl's story. Yeah, and not only did she do the show, she's she's been on it for like two seasons now, two or three seasons now. You know, she's committed to doing it.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:10

So I mean she doesn't have as big a role as when she was like almost a murderer, but yeah, she's gonna be a good one. Correct. She's married to one of them, so yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:18

That like she's doing she's kind of doing them a guys a favor, she's having fun. And like, you don't do that if you're not a nice person, you know, because she's way above doing a uh a Hulu streaming series, which is a very good show. Everyone should check it out. Yeah, but anyway, okay, yeah. So I have a nine for that. Uh, production, cinematography, and visuals. What do you have?

SPEAKER_03 1:09:39

Uh production cinematography. I mean, I feel like it probably is more impactful for someone who's like deep into fashion, but for me, yeah, it's a five.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:49

A five? Yeah. Ah boy. I have it at a seven, but I the seven is because of what you said, where I'm like, I think people like this, like, because like you're talking like the different outfits, um, yeah, which I don't really care about, I guess. But I'm trying to score it a little more objectively and just be like what they did as far as I don't know, man. It's just a bunch of clothes and shit. I'm gonna give it a six. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:22

That's fair.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:22

Like it was that wasn't like a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:24

You can keep your seven, I'm not mad at it.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:26

No, I know, but I I I was having a hard time even like justifying my seven, so that's why I took it down. Uh music and sound.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:36

Um the soundtrack, you know, outside of like the pose montage, there's nothing really happening much for me. Yeah, I don't know if yeah, so I give it a four.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:51

Yeah, no, yeah. I the uh I I I was thinking about it because I'm like, oh shit, I didn't score it. I'm like, what am I do for the music and sound? I'm like, I don't even remember like any music like in the thing.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:08

Like there was music, obviously, but yeah, everything there's like a sad scene of a little violin type shit, and then the pose thing, but aside from that, like get away from me. So yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:17

I'm gonna go to three. Yeah. Um and then yeah, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it just it didn't really do anything for me. I I cannot remember even that a post on you're talking about. I I remember that scene, you know, and I don't remember it because of the music. I just remember it because of the montage, how they did the quick edit. I like the editing of that scene. We're switching the outfits and how they blocked, use the cars who block in. So that's what stood out for me in that scene. And the music was cool, but it didn't really, you know, so and I can't remember any other musical moment. Cultural impact. What do you have there?

SPEAKER_03 1:11:50

Um, so cultural impact my little higher, even though I'm not in that world, it doesn't mean I can't be respectful of it. Um, you know, that's all. Everyone guard your loins. You know, it's things that are quoted here still today. There's obviously a sequel coming up, and everyone's super excited, including myself. Um, even though it's a 20-year gap. Uh yeah, I'm excited to see what they do with it. And Hathaway Now is uh, you know, on her is uh I don't know what actually the storyline is. I've just seen like tidbits of a fucking trailer right before because I was confused.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:26

I was like, how is there even a sequel for this?

SPEAKER_03 1:12:28

You know, yeah, I don't I don't know what's happening exactly. She has her own thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:35

It seems like either she works for like some type of like PR form or something, and I think it seems that like Miranda's being attacked like in the media or something. Okay, I could eat with that, I could do that. Yeah, she's coming on to help with that, and it looks like Emily works for like a different competing agency or something, I don't know, or magazine or something.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:56

But in the in the trailer, like uh Miranda Priestley is like they're keep they keep saying, Oh, this is Annie. Remember you she works with you, and she's act like she don't know who she is. And I'm like, does she have dementia?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:07

Like, I was fucking cut those. She does that. She's like, I don't know who who is this. I I saw I saw that in a trailer too, and I'm like, um, but again, Miranda had zero character growth in this movie, so yeah, I guess it'll play okay that this happened. This is, I mean, that this is gonna happen in a new one, but it did a little off-putting for me that she's like, I don't know who this is.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:28

Yeah, like a straight ass, I don't know who this is. I was like, Yeah, okay, that's kind of weird, but okay, whatever. Anyway, Culture Impact, I give it an eight.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:37

Okay. Um, I give it a nine. I give it a nine. Um, it's it's very, very popular movie.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:45

Okay, I'm I'm gonna give it a nine too. I'm gonna give it a nine.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:48

It's a very popular movie, man. People love this movie. I only watched it the one time, two times now, but I know the devil wears Prada, you know. Um, like I I'm aware of it in the cultural zeitgeist. And um it's yeah, it's an inescapable. So I'm gonna give it its props and give it a nine.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:10

Yeah. So overall, devil wears Prada, not your most complex story. It does lose, it does drag in the middle, and then the ending was kind of jumbled, but the performances, the characters, the cultural impact carry it, right? It carry into like I you at least should watch it once, if not twice. I I've watched it several times, um, but not from the perspective of kind of being a little bit more critical, just from the enjoyment piece, it's there. Um, and now we have the sequel coming. We'll see if they kind of recreate that same magic, if they fix some of the toxicity they had, you know, what exactly the PR part is doing, if if that really is the story, I'm not sure, but whatever it is, we'll see.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:46

You might have just made that up, but oh yeah, no, yeah, that was me guessing from one trailer just now, you know. Oh, okay. Um, and so our final scores just have that on the record. You have a six, and I have a six point four.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:00

Not you scoring Devil Lord higher than me. Jesus Christ. I know.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:03

I thought you were gonna be super high on it. You you sound honestly you sound more disappointed than anything.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:08

I am disappointed, I am very disappointed. Like, I'm actually watching it to like not just enjoy it, and I'm like, uh, what is this? Uh yeah, like if it was anybody else with the same storyline, this should be trash. Like, it was like if it wasn't Meryl Streep, Stanley Tushi, Emmy Blunt, it should be trash.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:25

Well, you know, and I'm wondering too, because I did see we didn't mention that there was this is a book, this was a book, right? Yeah, it is a book, but um went for a while. Which I've never read, so you said what?

SPEAKER_03 1:15:38

Which I've never read.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:39

Oh yeah, hell no. But Franco read the first script, and he was like, No. Like he was like, so this is a script being punched up, like he did some writing, they brought like four writers in to like kind of fix the script and stuff. So, whatever the original version of this, Franco was like, absolutely not, I'm not doing this movie, and this is a fixed version of it. And I mean, for all his flaws, it has become a cultural icon, but cool. Uh oh, yeah. So after this, um we are in the month of May uh with this with this episode drop-in. We

Final Scores Next Collab Goodbye

SPEAKER_02 1:16:10

will be doing joining with the Rally and Deli podcast again for some exciting uh new things. We will be doing a Mother's Day themed movie. Well, the movie is not Mother's Day themed, it's a movie about moms, let me put it that way. And then we will be joining Rally and Delhi for uh TV moms ranking terrorists. Is that what we're doing with them? And that will be fine.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:35

You know what? I don't know. I don't know what we're doing there.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:40

That's what we're doing with them, I'm pretty sure. So you can find that on their feed coming next week. Yep, coming next week. You can find that on their feed in uh preparation for Mother's Day. You should have two Mother's Day episodes. So yeah, look out for that, everyone. All right, well, that will do it for our Real Talk and Banter on The Devil Wears Prada. To connect with us, to give us some feedback, or just say hello, email us at real talkbanter at gmail.com. That's R-E-E-L Talkbanter at gmail.com. Thanks for listening.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:17

That's all.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:20

I thought you were gonna go with the floral one. Uh the floral quote. Oh, floral, that's original. Floral in the spring? No, you don't remember that one?

SPEAKER_03 1:17:28

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got it.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:29

Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. You watch me like that.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:31

I mean, it is springtime. Okay, fine. Floral in the spring. That's original. Is that better?

SPEAKER_02 1:17:39

All right. I guess. And we're off.