[MEGA POD] Happy Mother's Day!: Bad Moms (2016)

A PTA bake sale shouldn’t feel like a battleground, but Bad Moms turns school politics, mom guilt, and the pressure to “do it all” into a full-blown comedy war and we had to talk about it. For our Mother’s Day crossover, we’re joined by Jehrel and Trendell from the Relly and Delly Podcast, and we bring the jokes and the honest critique while revisiting the 2016 hit starring Mila Kunis, Kristen Bell, Kathryn Hahn, Christina Applegate, and Jada Pinkett Smith.

We start with what still works: the cast chemistry, the way the opening narration captures mom burnout, and why Carla might be the only character who truly earns the title “bad mom.” Then we get into what doesn’t: plot convenience, disappearing kid storylines, and a PTA election arc that raises real questions about how schools actually get support. We also talk about the movie’s darker undertones, especially Kiki’s marriage dynamic, and why some “comedy” moments read like a warning sign instead of a punchline.

You’ll hear us debate the core takeaway: is “doing less” freedom, neglect, or finally setting boundaries? And we end on the sweetest part of the film, the post-credits moment with the actors and their real moms, which turns a messy comedy into something unexpectedly sincere for Mother’s Day.

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Transcript

Mother’s Day Crossover Setup

SPEAKER_06 0:29

Hello, and welcome to the Real Talk and Banter Podcast, the movie podcast where we discuss and review films that are at least a decade old. I'm Omari Williams.

SPEAKER_01 0:40

And I'm Jay Richardson.

SPEAKER_06 0:42

Today we are joined by Gerrell and Trendell of the Rally and Deli Podcast. Welcome, guys.

SPEAKER_03 1:00

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_06 1:02

Yes, folks, by that unhinged intro, this is a crossover episode in observance of Mother's Day. And as a tribute to our moms, who are all great, by the way. Right. We are discussing bad moms.

SPEAKER_02 1:17

Correct.

SPEAKER_06 1:19

The movie Bad Moms. Alright. This is not, we're not sending subliminals to any moms, to any of our moms or anybody. Correct. Just, you know, all right, subverting expectations a little bit. All right, guys. Well, welcome to the podcast. Again, good to have you all. Thank you. How have things been since we last recorded? Honestly, things have been pretty excellent.

SPEAKER_11 1:44

It's been awesome. That's been honestly, what, a couple of months now, but it almost feels like this. It feels longer. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:52

Yeah. It feels longer. Yeah, yeah. Agreed. Agreed. Well, hey, the people wanted more, so we're giving it to them. Uh, and and for free.

SPEAKER_00 2:03

Oh, the people? Um what people? Uh what people?

SPEAKER_09 2:07

We have hundreds of fans. We do. You know.

SPEAKER_03 2:11

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:12

We get requests.

SPEAKER_08 2:15

Come on now. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 2:17

I wasn't invited to the invite, so I didn't realize. Okay, okay. I'm I'm I'm tracking it out. Okay.

SPEAKER_11 2:22

You're the part of the we by the right. Right.

SPEAKER_01 2:25

They watch us all. Oh, now you want to include me.

SPEAKER_03 2:32

Oh, gosh, gosh.

SPEAKER_06 2:35

Yeah, guys. Y'all, for our listeners, if you have that friend that um leaves a group chat when they're fed up, yeah, that is Jay. That is what she does. Well, she did it, so now it's what she does. So did it happen. We just never know what we're gonna get.

SPEAKER_11 2:50

It was so clean, it didn't even register on my phone that she left, actually.

SPEAKER_06 2:56

Yeah, well, that's because you're not an admin in the chat. Oh. So yeah, sorry. So I have to take this call.

unknown 3:03

I've got to follow up.

SPEAKER_05 3:04

He gotta get on his level. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.

SPEAKER_08 3:10

It's alright.

SPEAKER_06 3:11

Pressing phone call.

SPEAKER_03 3:14

All right, all right.

Release Stats And Cast Rundown

SPEAKER_06 3:16

Okay, so Bad Moms uh came out the weekend of July 29th. Uh the budget for this film was $22 million. It made $183.9 million worldwide. Pretty impressive for you know this kind of um, you know, kind of comedy.

SPEAKER_09 3:34

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 3:35

The opening weekend, it opened alongside Jason Bourne, which I don't know if anyone's a Bourne fan in under pod, but that's my jam. Uh not surprisingly, Jason Bourne uh finished number one that weekend, but uh bad moms came in number three with 23.8 million that weekend, and they netted 50 million. Number two, you trying to catch me off guard or what? I'll read it for you. Number two was Star Trek Beyond. Wow.

SPEAKER_01 4:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 4:08

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 4:11

That's a tough weekend to open on.

SPEAKER_06 4:13

Jason Bourne and I know. Well, so uh Star Trek had already been in for maybe two weeks. So the only new movies that weekend was Jason Bourne, not only, but the new movies that were its competition with Jason Bourne and it's something called Nerve, which I've never heard of. Oh me either. Yeah, but for its weekend, Bad Moms did really good coming out against Jason Bourne and and all the other movies that were out, making $183 million, $50 million net profit is pretty, pretty good. Yeah. So our main cast, we have Mila Koomis playing Amy, we have Kristen Bell as Kiki, Katherine Hahn as Carla, Christina Applegate as Gwendolyn, Jada Pinkett Smith as Stacy, and Annie Mumolo as Vicky. So we kind of have the three titular bad moms by Kunis, Bell, and Hahn, and then Applegate, uh Pinkett Smith, and Mumolo playing a sort of mean mom antagonist to the three main ones. How was this movie for y'all? Has everyone seen this movie before? Was this the first time for anyone?

SPEAKER_11 5:22

No, it was my second time watching it because in 2016, in height of me being a barb, we had like a page that, like, if a Nikki song was going to be in a movie, we would watch the movie specifically.

SPEAKER_06 5:34

Oh. Gotcha. So that was the. I'm sorry. You were a what? Barb.

SPEAKER_01 5:39

A barb?

SPEAKER_06 5:40

Like Barbara?

SPEAKER_11 5:41

Like Barbie.

SPEAKER_01 5:42

Please. A Nicki Minaj fan.

SPEAKER_11 5:44

I'm gonna swipe on you. You're so hetero. It's exhausting. I mean, I guess. I guess Barbie's official name is Barbara. Yes, Barbie's official name is Barbara. But no, a Nicki Minaj stan is calling. So this is about Barbie.

SPEAKER_09 5:59

Oh Jesus Christ, are you listening? No, I just said it. Oh, I didn't hear you. Do you smell too?

SPEAKER_08 6:05

You didn't know that though.

SPEAKER_06 6:06

Do you my bad? I apologize. Do you smell totally mean? I apologize. But yeah. Please proceed.

SPEAKER_11 6:12

Yeah, so like her fans would like watch movies, specifically if she had like a song in the soundtrack. So I saw it then.

SPEAKER_01 6:19

I don't know if I would have admitted that in this shame is for a lesser bitch.

SPEAKER_06 6:24

Yeah, she's not very she's not wow. I would argue that's what's wrong with society, is that we took shame away. Bring back shame. Shame.

SPEAKER_11 6:34

Shame. Shame. Shame shame. Shame. Honestly. Shame. But yeah, I watched the film just for that. Honestly, it's a fever dream, and re-watching it now.

SPEAKER_10 6:46

Um, it was a it was something. It was something.

SPEAKER_08 6:54

Now I will piggyback off of that. I won't say it was a fever dream. It was something. And we'll get into that. But uh, this is my first time watching it. So yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 7:06

I really want to I want Gerell to go back to fever me. I can't keep it. Like, please.

SPEAKER_06 7:11

Like, are you saving like your thoughts for like later on in the episode? Is that what it is?

SPEAKER_01 7:18

Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. That's fine, it's fine.

SPEAKER_06 7:20

We'll we'll let you explore your thoughts and feelings and share them organically as we discuss over the next hour. Yeah. Sorry.

SPEAKER_00 7:29

Or two.

SPEAKER_06 7:30

No. All right. Uh, Joe, you've been here before with Bad Moms or is this the first time?

SPEAKER_01 7:36

Uh no, I watched it when it first came out. Um, you know what? Actually, I did not watch it when it first came out. I think I watched it during the pandemic because you're running out of things to watch. So I did watch it there, but it's kind of like a one-time watch for me. It's not something I go back to or anything.

SPEAKER_06 7:54

Same. Yeah. This is also my second time watching it. I watched it around when it came out, and that was about it. Uh, cast wise, love the cast. Uh, these ladies are funny, they're really good. Um, yeah, I love Kristen Bell. She's hilarious. I do. Uh, The Good Place Anyone?

SPEAKER_08 8:11

Absolutely. Changed my life.

SPEAKER_06 8:14

Changed my life. Listen, I actually did a complete rewatch of The Good Place. That's one of those rare series where I actually rewatched from beginning to end. It's so good. So good. And um, Catherine Hahn, Katherine Hahn is amazing. She's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 8:30

I I didn't I didn't write The Good Place. I don't know if I should say that.

SPEAKER_06 8:33

We were going to do something past that. You did not have to expose yourself like that. You know what?

SPEAKER_01 8:38

No, I I want to. I want to be honest in my toolback.

SPEAKER_06 8:41

Didn't you just say that, Amanda? You know what? You're right. Shame. Shame, shame, shame. I'm gonna I'm gonna shame I'm gonna put a shame drop in there. Shame. By the way, Jalissa doesn't even get that. She's never seen Game of Thrones.

SPEAKER_11 8:57

So the only reason I'm gonna excuse it is because the joke was on us in the end. It wasted all of our time and they played in my fucking face.

SPEAKER_06 9:07

Listen to you wrong for that though. It's a continual struggle because my pop culture references are completely lost on jail. It's just doesn't get them.

SPEAKER_05 9:19

I mean, I get some of them. Half blood.

unknown 9:22

Ah!

SPEAKER_05 9:23

It's still wrong.

SPEAKER_08 9:25

It's still wrong. And why are you a pirate? Right.

unknown 9:31

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 9:32

I watched Prior to the Caribbean. Exactly. Oh my god. So Pirate to the Caribbean.

SPEAKER_06 9:38

Easy, easy, easy. That was a shot at me. That was a shot at me. Alright.

SPEAKER_01 9:43

Yeah, exactly. Thank you.

SPEAKER_06 9:45

There has been a sequel, Bad Mom's Christmas. Has anyone watched that? No, no. No. I have watched that. Oh, really? I haven't watched it.

SPEAKER_05 9:54

Oh, I'm the only one. You're the only one. Okay. How do you guys feel?

SPEAKER_07 9:59

I feel perfectly fine.

SPEAKER_09 10:00

We can't listen to you, actually, for watching.

SPEAKER_07 10:03

Shame. I know.

SPEAKER_09 10:05

Shame.

SPEAKER_06 10:07

I do like bad moms. Yeah. I do like bad moms. And I remember liking it when it came out, but obviously not enough to go watch the sequel. Oh, that's that's cool. And then I moved on.

The Opening Line Hits Hard

SPEAKER_06 10:16

Here we are at Bad Moms.

unknown 10:18

Bad Moms.

SPEAKER_06 10:19

Bad Moms. And the movie, right? It the opening line for the movie, um, I know we're not going scene by seeing, but the opening line of the movie, where she says, I had my first kid at 20 years old, and I've been running late ever since. That shit hit me hard. Damn. I didn't have a child at 20, but the running late ever since thing, oh my god. Because after um my daughter was born, and then I had to go back to work, and I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, how are people on time? I just don't understand like people with children. Like, how are you ever on time? Like, this is a nightmare. It's just, it's so damn hard. And it feels like you're always running behind and you're playing catch up sometimes, especially when they're in the infant stage. And oh my god. So I immediately was able to relate with the movie. And then she went on because she starts off talking about being a mom and the ups and downs of it. And then she talked about crying in her car. And I was like, I don't cry in my car because I'm kicking ass.

SPEAKER_07 11:20

And then I remember.

SPEAKER_06 11:23

I did remember Baby Girl made me crying like last week. Okay. So I get it. Like a hundred percent. And like it wasn't even, it wasn't even like uh like she's freaking out right now, and like I started crying. Like she freaked out, and like I struggled through the night, I went to bed, and then I woke up crying. It was crazy. Like I woke up just like disheveled, like what like what is going on? Like Risa was like, you need to go back to bed. So yeah, man. I started identifying with the movie, and it I it obviously had to hit different for me this time than when I first watched it when I was 16 or 17. And being a parent now, I'm like, okay, I see what's happening, I I get like my perception and reception of this movie is very different. So I will be coming at this from an actual parenting uh scope, as you know, as we discuss. But as the movie began, how did that hit for you guys? Were you guys like, all right, let's speed up, or were you you know, how how was the movie? How did you receive the beginning of the movie?

SPEAKER_11 12:27

You know, I think Trinella and I were watching it, and like it had gotten to a point where something happened, not not too long in like a conversation with one of her kids. Um, I think like when they were doing the breakfast, and um she was like, Oh, you're gonna make the breakfast for yourself, right? And this is important because she was doing everything for but the we had the thoughts, but we just didn't say it that like this wouldn't happen, I think, if they were black. And I think because too when I think of like mommy and our upbringing, like mommy and daddy were like, it's time to go, get ready. Like, I feel like they were very on top of us and on top of our schoolwork and our projects and helped with stuff, but it was never their responsibility to do, and we we weren't coddled in that type of sense. You feel what I'm saying? Making breakfast and like all those different types of things.

SPEAKER_06 13:31

We were making our own breakfast in middle school. Remember, these kids were in middle school. We were I remember I remember a father making breakfast for us constantly.

SPEAKER_11 13:44

They did, they did, but like there were days when it's like you could grab an egg waffle, or you know, even when I was in cancry, I had school breakfast at that point, and they were just like, You're gonna have breakfast at home. And you know, I was there from like they usually dropped me off early like 5 30, 6 o'clock at Cancrine, and breakfast started at 6 30 before school.

SPEAKER_04 14:10

So I feel like you guys have different ages, so it's not like because Nico's the thing, right?

SPEAKER_11 14:17

We're only a year and a half apart, but because of like where my age fell, you know, we were schools apart at different points, you know. We never had that moment where we remet in junior high, so we didn't reconnect until high school, and then we all weren't again in school together until you were what uh senior am I?

SPEAKER_06 14:41

Senior.

SPEAKER_11 14:42

Senior, yeah, and I I was um uh sophomore and Nico was a freshman. The last time we were in the same school, you were in sixth grade, I was in fourth, and then Nico was in third. So it's crazy how like those dates just kind of shifted shit and made how we grew up in school just a little bit different, you know?

SPEAKER_02 15:06

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:07

No, I was gonna I was commenting on um because Omari said that your dad was like cooking breakfast to you. I was like, well, I would assume he was more cooking for the youngest, but he couldn't just like hand it to him and then be like the two of y'all figure it out. That kind of thing.

SPEAKER_11 15:17

Because when he was in junior high, we were still in elementary, you were in seventh grade, and I was in fifth. So yeah.

SPEAKER_06 15:24

I think when you went to high school, oh I see what you're saying. So I'm thinking, because when I'm in middle school, you're in elementary, so of course breakfast is still being made. But by the time I made in high school, we're all in junior. I got what you're saying. Okay. Yeah. And then that's when it's like, all right, fucking figure it out. Yeah, I got you.

SPEAKER_11 15:39

Because they're not gonna make breakfast for the two of us and be like, Mary, you still here?

SPEAKER_01 15:43

I'd be like, oh, too bad. That'd be kind of shitty. I mean, it's showed elf, but I'm in shitty.

SPEAKER_00 15:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:51

Um, so my takes on the beginning of the movie, first of all, I couldn't remember like all the details, so I assumed that she was a single parent with all the shitty she was. I didn't realize that she was married until dude showed up. I'm like, who the fuck is this guy? Like, oh, husband. I was like, oh, she's not a single mom? Like, why is she doing all of that?

SPEAKER_06 16:12

And honestly, when he first showed up, I was like, oh, is her like brother like staying with her? Brother? I thought it was a brother.

SPEAKER_01 16:19

I was like, oh, and the like the crazy, the like homeless uncle just hanging out with people's husband. I was like, what the fuck? Then why is she doing all of this? Like, why is she?

SPEAKER_11 16:31

It was a miserable existence.

SPEAKER_06 16:33

It was I mean, his character was not very good. I literally wrote that his character is a caricature, it's so unrealistic, and yeah, it had to exist. He exists just for plot reasons, you know.

SPEAKER_00 16:45

Um, I don't know if it's unrealistic.

SPEAKER_11 16:47

I feel like he's realistic on TikTok now and you start seeing the the advent of social media is seeing these people, and I you you can't really tell if they're a product of receiving this type of media and they're shaping themselves off of the stuff that they've seen, or this is just how they've always been. But these guys are really still existing today, like that.

SPEAKER_06 17:12

So let me clarify, because you're you all of you are right. Um, what made me feel like he was a character, caricature, and unrealistic, it was when he was beaten off um at the computer when his wife was home, his wife and kids were home. Oh who would do that? To me, that's a step too far of being like bullied.

SPEAKER_08 17:28

But then again, like, are you serious? I think it's dog. I think he just got very brazen because he'd been doing it for so long. You know, yeah. He clearly doesn't care anymore. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 17:40

Right.

SPEAKER_08 17:41

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 17:41

Yeah, he said he had feelings, so he's in love. He's like, whatever, I'm getting this gun. I'm doing this. He's doing this now. Big bush girl is here, I'm ready for it.

SPEAKER_08 17:48

It's how we do it.

SPEAKER_01 17:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 17:51

Honestly, on the Oh, go ahead. Oh, well, thank you. So honestly, on the front of the movie, I mean, I do have to full disclosure, I don't have any kids. But I was definitely thinking that she was making this much harder than it has to be. Like, ma'am, lock in. Daily trips to the grocery store. Daily? Why are you going every day? Daily was ridiculous. Right. What's wrong with your time management?

SPEAKER_00 18:19

Daily trips.

SPEAKER_06 18:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:20

Like your time management is. You can live together and buy two weeks' worth of food.

SPEAKER_06 18:24

Hey, that means that you're like, oh shit, we ran out of milk. Let me go buy some milk. Oh shit, we ran out of butter. Let me go buy some butter. It's like, no, that's you're doing grocery shopping wrong at that point in time. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 18:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 18:36

Yeah. So it was a rough start when you had it laid out her character and some of the things, like I said, I related to some, and some, it was like, you're doing way too much, lady. The peanut-free peanut butter was crazy. Madame.

SPEAKER_01 18:50

Bro, was so mad. I was ready to turn off the TV, I'll be honest. The fucking peanut-free peanut butter and freaking organic turkey sandwich bullshit. I was like, Oh, fucking take your ass. And the gigantic ass science or history uh project thing that she did. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:09

That was your mind.

SPEAKER_01 19:13

Out of your mind. So, okay, so did he? I think so.

SPEAKER_09 19:17

Oh, is that what he got a default for?

SPEAKER_11 19:20

That was true. That's when she was extra content and pissed. Like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_06 19:24

That is tough. I never connect.

SPEAKER_01 19:26

That's 100%. Like, that's a hundred plus.

SPEAKER_06 19:28

That's hilarious. That's ridiculous. That's hilarious. I thought it was a I think I thought it was a different assignment. No, I thought it would be out. I couldn't. Well, um, so let's focus at the end.

SPEAKER_01 19:38

I think it was a science quiz is where he got the D on.

SPEAKER_06 19:41

Yeah, that's what I thought. It was a yeah, it was a it wasn't a project, it was a quiz, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:44

Oh, a quiz.

SPEAKER_11 19:45

Okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_06 19:46

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Well, so it explains why he got a D. She shouldn't be confused. They do know you don't know shit.

Grading Amy’s Mom Arc

SPEAKER_06 19:53

So let's talk about Amy, right? I want to take these ladies one by one, right? We could talk about a movie that way through the lens of each movie. That's what she said. I I want to fight you so badly. Not because the joke was bad, guys. Just for context, Jen has only recently started watching The Office, and it has caused so much tension in our friendship. We're not gonna get into that here though. Oh my god. Good say that for off mic. But but um Amy, right? So the whole premise of the movie is she's this mom that's struggling, and then she gets with some friends, and she makes some new friends, and she decides she wants to be a bad mom. And they decide that as a group, kinda, I guess, but we only see Amy um doing her quote unquote bad mom stuff, right? Right. I would argue though that some of the shit she was doing before was bad mom territory, which I guess is kind of the point at the end of the movie. She talks about we're just all struggling. Yeah. But how would you rate Amy as a mom, you know, at the beginning of the movie, and then where where she's at like during the movie, and then where she ends up at the end of the movie? Like, what would you talk? How would you grade that progression of hers? Let's do letter grades. What would you give her pre-PTM meeting before she decides actively to be a bad mom? What kind of grade would you guys give give Amy at that point?

SPEAKER_08 21:25

Um I would give her a B. I was thinking the same thing. Because of intent. Like a maybe a B.

SPEAKER_11 21:32

I think like she's the intent, yeah. Yeah, she's for me, she's a B the entire time. Maybe. Because one, it's like the intent in the beginning. She's doing shit that's like you shouldn't do, but she's really doing it because one, she's married to a fucking man child who cannot rear his children. She has her own neurotic tendencies that she's now projecting on her kid un unintentionally. Um, and she's a doormatch. She's taking it at work, she's taking it at home, she's taking it at a PTA. So she's doing, doing, doing. She's putting them at a disadvantage, but it's because she really thinks she's trying to do the best thing. So I can't really like her. Girl, that's wrong as shit what you was doing. But I wouldn't just be like, you know, I give her a B because she really thought she was doing the right thing. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 22:26

I I actually agree with Jarrell. Like, I actually wouldn't change my grade throughout the movie. I think she was a bad uh person to herself. I she needed some hella boundaries. Um, and I and at the end she, you know, started to get those. But I think as a mom, what she was doing, I mean shit. I wish my mom did my damn project for me. Thanks.

SPEAKER_01 22:52

But um Honestly, I I absolutely uh one of my biggest irks in like TV and movies is like ungrateful kids.

SPEAKER_06 23:00

Oh god, it's hard to watch. I was hard to watch. I hate those kids. We're gonna talk about the kids. I will make some space for us to talk about those fucking kids.

SPEAKER_08 23:09

All right, all right.

SPEAKER_01 23:09

Go ahead, Trendel. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 23:10

And Trendel, where are you at on that? I think she started off. I think she started off as like maybe a B, maybe B minus. Because it the intent is there. During her like bad mom phase in the middle, like she definitely dropped down to like a D. Because there was points where this bitch was going down one-way streets the wrong way. Like, it gets really crazy. She gets real reckless.

SPEAKER_00 23:34

You're right, you're right. She was in deep irrigation.

SPEAKER_06 23:38

We found out that car has no seatbelt in the back seat after she's been fucking drifting with her son back there. Exactly.

SPEAKER_11 23:45

Okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_08 23:46

It gets real nasty in the middle. That was a couple of things. And then by the end, I'd say she's a C. It's fine. A C? Yeah, fine. Okay.

SPEAKER_11 23:54

So B G. I would give her. That's a B and F, actually. You don't got seatbelts. That's crazy. I don't play with car safety. I don't play with car safety. And then I'll put her back up to her. That's crazy. Back up to a B. She was drifting in a fucking challenger with a big thing. That was it. It was crazy. That's wild. And there was one point in the film where I was like, where are your children? Yeah, there were some, there were some, like, it's it's so weird, right?

SPEAKER_06 24:26

Because I feel like overall, holistically, the movie never goes far enough to show us her being just a bad mom. Right, right. You know, and and I think too, and definitely from my just my real-world experiences and stuff, right? Because like I'm looking at certain things a certain way, you know. So I didn't see her. Like, I was I expected in a movie that says bad moms, I expected to hear a couple like fuck them kids, you know, dropped in the movie. And that was never even really said. There were some times where you're like, Where are your children? Because the whole party thing, I thought she was they were being babysat, but I guess there were it was a sleepover or something.

SPEAKER_09 25:05

Did she go pick her fucking?

SPEAKER_06 25:06

She sent them to a friend's house to sleep over the whole night. That's what she said. And it was a sleepover. I had interpreted as they were watching them. It was crazy. Because then that means your friend is getting your kids ready for work the next day. So stuff like that, I'm like, that's way too much. That's that's like be better, you know.

SPEAKER_01 25:24

So the biggest the biggest one I had was uh during the I don't care montage when they were in the grocery. Um I was like, where the fuck are all of their kids? Where are any of them? Because Kristen Bell's character has like young toddlers, and we see her husband is also nowhere. Those are infants.

SPEAKER_06 25:43

No, those are infants. Like she left. When when you know, hold on, hold on, hold on. Uh-oh. You can't just leave like your infant with anyone for an extended period of time. Like, it's just it doesn't work that way.

SPEAKER_08 26:01

That's when you become a bad mom.

SPEAKER_06 26:03

I hear you, right? I would never leave Jornara with you for fucking like 12 hours, dude. Like right now at this stage. I wouldn't. I mean, it was like eight hours or something. They were out drinking. Uh they got together. PTA meeting was like 5:30. Um, so that means the kids were there from at least from four o'clock. They were out all night long. We're talking like eight hours or something in the middle of the night. Like, come on, man. Like, that's that's you wilding at that point. That's crazy. You wilding. True. So, okay, so let's talk about because I do want to talk about a supermarket scene, but let's talk about the other moms first. We're gonna talk about Kiki, Kristen Bell's character.

Kiki’s Marriage Stops Being Funny

SPEAKER_06 26:42

And for me, they kept playing Kiki's character as like her home life specifically, like it's supposed to be funny. That shit is a cry for help. That woman is an abused mother, a woman, okay? Because when homeboy popped up in the restaurant and he's like, What are you doing here? You're supposed to be out. That's your job.

SPEAKER_07 27:07

I was like, Oh, can we get help for Kiki?

SPEAKER_06 27:10

I was like, dude, this is a if we were to follow Kiki's life, this becomes a darker movie. It's a drama like this. Oh my gosh. It was that was crazy seeing how her husband was.

SPEAKER_11 27:22

I would love to see that the same movie, but it's the life of Kiki, and it's everything that was happening before that's going in.

SPEAKER_06 27:30

Dude, Kiki Kiki cries herself to sleep every night, and you know it. Her daughter is a killer. Her daughter is a killer. Oh, yeah, that's it. That was funny. I forgot about that.

SPEAKER_08 27:42

But it wasn't an accident.

SPEAKER_07 27:46

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_06 27:47

Yeah, but like Kiki, I was like, I don't know, man. Somebody, y'all need to liberate Kiki. Like, Amy's problems are not that big of a deal. Like, let's let's help Kiki out. That's how I felt.

SPEAKER_11 27:58

Yeah. When she had her moment with her husband when he called her on the phone, and Trinidad was just like, hope you don't she don't get knocked around. I said, none in those. I knocked around. Because look, I know a bitch like Kiki. Kiki, girls like Kiki, they take it because they're afraid that when they start giving it, they're not gonna let up on that ass. So she was a little doormat, but I know after that day, she was whooping his ass every night. She went home that day.

SPEAKER_08 28:25

I mean, drinks.

SPEAKER_11 28:27

I don't think we watch the same movie.

SPEAKER_08 28:31

At the end, that's how it was.

SPEAKER_06 28:32

At the very, very end. That's because she's a big thing. But after the phone call in the restaurant.

SPEAKER_11 28:36

No, in the car. She still got pushed around after that. In the car. Oh, I've seen. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh no. He he definitely shook that bitch brain loose a little bit after the restaurant.

SPEAKER_08 28:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:48

A little catch on VVE, thank you.

SPEAKER_11 28:50

She had a period.

SPEAKER_00 28:53

He was crazy.

SPEAKER_11 28:54

Right. That was a little bright grip. And it was definitely a big thing. It was voyaging into like uncomfortable. Like, is this an episode of SVU, babe? Like.

SPEAKER_06 29:08

Right. I thought we were headed there. I think he's gonna I thought we were headed there. Okay. His energy, like, whatever notes they gave him to like come in and like get kicky out of a restaurant and be all like chauvinistic.

Carla As The True Bad Mom

SPEAKER_06 29:24

I think he overplayed it a little. Correct. It was it was given domestic violence. Like it was a bit much for the tone of the movie. I thought it was too much. Very bad. I agree. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_08 29:36

It was alarming. It was very alarming.

SPEAKER_06 29:39

Let's get to the MVP of the movie. Katherine Hahn as Carla. That's my MVP. I'll ask you guys for your MVPs later, I guess. But Katherine Hahn as Carla. Listen to me. This movie is called Bad Moms. I'm sorry. She is the bad mom in the fucking movie. Correct. Absolutely. When they were like, oh, let's be bad moms, I'm like, I think Carla has y'all beat already, guys. Like she's already living that lifestyle. Exactly. Everything she was doing was just wild. When when Amy called her and was like, hey, yo, um, wanna see if you want to you want to get together with me and kick your movie, she's like, Oh, I'm already here. What you bitch you're trying to watch?

SPEAKER_11 30:19

I was like, I'm already here. They were gaggle when they found out she actually had a job.

SPEAKER_08 30:28

Yeah, I was gagging. Yeah, I'm a gag.

SPEAKER_11 30:31

She was out of control. And you know, I thought it was great because it's like, that's how you do it. Like, if if I wanted to, I don't know, start a gang of something, you gotta find somebody who's already established in the ways that's not gonna give you resistance on the shit that you're trying to do, but also be so far gone that you're like, at least I'm not that. I go to my kids' games. Oh, I may not be making them breakfast, but I don't call my son a big motherfucker. And I like, you know, I'm present in ways. So she was a good, like, you know, totem to be like, okay, I'm not that far gone just yet. But also, I need help in being bad. I need the the ability to think like a bad mom. I need somebody with a and she was that she was crazy. Makes sense. She was trying to pick that man up at fucking drop off at the beginning of the film.

SPEAKER_06 31:28

Oh, that was.

SPEAKER_08 31:33

She had to come get him.

SPEAKER_00 31:34

I thought it was a single dad. She got people to the party.

SPEAKER_06 31:37

When she said, she said your beige windbreaker is lighting up my board, right? Yeah. And if I wasn't watching, because she did gesture towards her crotch, I wouldn't know what what the f she said, you know what I mean, my vagina. Like, is that a saying? My board? Like, who calls it a board? I don't know. She listened when Katherine Hahn showed up, I said Catherine Hahn has entered the chat and she's just killing with jokes, like every second, just firing them rapid fire.

SPEAKER_11 32:05

I do think she had the majority of the jokes, honestly.

SPEAKER_06 32:08

I think so too.

SPEAKER_11 32:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 32:10

Kristen Bell had some good ones too. Yeah. Hers were a little, they were they were different jokes.

SPEAKER_11 32:15

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 32:16

And dark. Yeah, they were dark. But she uh Kristen Bell got some laughs out of me as well.

SPEAKER_11 32:21

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 32:23

Um, so let's go to the meeting at the bar when this is after the PTA meeting where Amy's like, nah man, fuck this. I don't because um Gwendolyn, they're they're getting ready for a bake sale, and Gwendolyn literally lists all the ingredients that is in any baked good and saying those are forbidden. They're all forbidden.

SPEAKER_11 32:49

If I make I want to talk about motherfucking Gwendolyn James, bitch. Now that's my envy, please. Christina Applegate, one of the great Christinas, Million.

SPEAKER_06 33:03

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_11 33:05

Okay. Damn, I forgot.

SPEAKER_06 33:06

You can't do that on any listening.

SPEAKER_11 33:08

I know. Regulara? Oh, I I got nervous because you guys got really quiet. Um we're listening to you. I know. Correct. It's new. But Christina Applegate, she killed this role, honestly. Gwendolyn. And then especially when you find out like all the stuff that she was going through at this time, um, with like her her health and everything, and she was still keeping it under wraps.

SPEAKER_08 33:33

Stacy, Stacy gives you gives us the one-to punch because we have Gwendolyn, and then Stacy's always right there with the cosign. I mean, Jada think it was those were the two most like hilarious characters in the whole movie to me.

SPEAKER_06 33:46

Really?

SPEAKER_08 33:47

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_11 33:48

Okay, I put yeah, I put well since we're all giving no go ahead. Yeah, for me, it's Catherine and Christina. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 33:56

Okay. Jay, uh, Jill, who is your MVP since everybody's giving theirs?

SPEAKER_08 34:03

Oh. Sorry.

SPEAKER_04 34:06

No, no, no. I didn't do that in a bad way. MVP MVP, like of the movie total. I don't know.

SPEAKER_08 34:19

Right.

SPEAKER_04 34:19

Yeah. No. I mean, I I could give it to Applegate if I had to choose. Yeah. Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 34:28

Uh, sorry. Okay, so let's go back to the the bar scene,

Bar Night Turns Into Grocery Chaos

SPEAKER_06 34:32

right? So the meeting of the three, the three protagonists. And um, so Mila Kunis storms out of the PTA meeting, and she goes to sit at his bar, and she sits basically in Carla's lap. I was like, why did she sit so close to her? Like there was the whole bar was empty. And then I guess Kiki followed her over there and was like, oh my gosh, I can't believe he did all that. That's awesome. And Mila Kunis, Amy says, Oh, you should have a drink with us. Carla's like, nope, not us. I was air by my like that. I don't know. I'm sorry, Kathy Hart just had me rolling the whole time. But that goes into this, so that turns out uh having a drink turns into you, I used the word fever dream earlier, like the night just goes off the rails. And they go to the grocery store because I don't know how many hours are spent at a bar. I guess they had a 24-hour Kroger's or King Supers or something there, but they go to the grocery store where it has to be really late at night, although there was a lot of people in there for like a 10 o'clock grocery run, it felt like.

SPEAKER_01 35:43

Bro, I used to be up in Walmart at 3 a.m.

SPEAKER_06 35:46

Me too. I used to do the same thing. First of all, yeah, Walmart has a different demographic of people. We're not talking about Walmart here. They were not at a Walmart.

SPEAKER_05 35:56

Oh, it's a demographic.

SPEAKER_06 35:58

Crazy things go on in Walmart. Hey man. Especially that late. Okay. Thank you, Trendel. I think that that answer is. And I used to be one of them. Damn it.

SPEAKER_05 36:06

Why you why you damn up the hair? I used to be one of them. We're trying to get him cancelled.

SPEAKER_11 36:11

He is editing this.

SPEAKER_06 36:12

He's editing it. Listen, yeah. First of all, first of all, it's gonna happen organically, me getting canceled. So just let time take its best. Second of all, it's gonna have to be an episode when I'm not editing because I'm gonna cut all my shit out. Listen, some of these edits, I've cut some shit out of some of these podcasts. I was like, I can't believe I said that. They go into this grocery store and then they just completely. I'm like, they have to find another grocery store. There's no way in hell they can ever step foot in that place again, let alone the fact that they weren't arrested. She does she said to her kids, I'm we might we might have to find a new store. I might know. You definitely do. You definitely do. And you're lucky you guys weren't arrested. They're probably gonna get arrested later that week or something when they look at that security footage.

SPEAKER_01 37:03

I didn't, I didn't, I don't think the I said, I actually have this note here. The cat I don't think the cashier gave a fuck about anything. I feel like they could have lit the counter on fire and they'd have just been like, right. Because they were slapping the shit out of him at night.

SPEAKER_06 37:15

The cashier doesn't run the store though. So when the GM comes in in the morning and it's like, what the fuck happened in here? That cashier is getting fired, and then they calling the police, they're going to look at those security cameras, they're gonna pull their license plates from the parking lot, they're gonna track those ladies down and they're gonna be served papers 100%.

SPEAKER_01 37:34

What kind of grocery store show uh sells a whole suit of art?

SPEAKER_08 37:38

That was ridiculous.

SPEAKER_06 37:39

Yeah, right. Maybe it was Walmart.

SPEAKER_08 37:42

It probably was, or maybe it wasn't for sale, maybe it was like display, and they just took it. Yeah, they just took it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 37:50

Like Game of Thrones or something. It's like a DVD section, and then it just goes. Game of Thrones Oreos. I like that trendel. I think that's what happened. I think that's what happened 100%.

SPEAKER_02 38:00

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 38:02

So, all right, so now we have our three ladies together, and essentially hijinks in suit for the movie. We see them that night is when they decided, oh, let's just be bad moms. I don't think Kiki ever did that. Kiki was like, uh uh, my man's gonna smack me around, so I'm gonna be home and do what I have to do. Kath uh Carla was already living that life, so she had no changes to make. Yeah, so Amy, her change was all right, I'm not making you guys breakfast and I won't do your homework anymore. I'm like, that's is that bad mom enough? I don't I don't know. Yeah, yeah, I don't think so. But I think oh no, I was what I was gonna say, not to cut you, I was gonna say for me, if you're doing bad mom shit, like a judge should probably be able to take your kids away because of your actions. That's that's what I'm thinking about. Honestly. If a judge can't take your kids away, like alright, yeah, then you're just you're not great. Right.

SPEAKER_08 38:56

To me, Amy became like, oh, I'm a cool mom. You know, I'm a I'm a little, I'm a little jazzy. You know, she didn't really become a bad mom. She's like, oh, you don't, you know, they're barfing at your mandolin practice, which is weird. They're barfing at your mandolin practice. Let's go to the spa. Let's blow it off. Wait, is that the practice she skipped? Mandarin?

SPEAKER_11 39:19

Mandarin.

SPEAKER_08 39:20

No, I thought it was mandarin. Mandarin.

SPEAKER_01 39:23

I was like, she's playing a little fucking.

SPEAKER_08 39:25

I thought it said mandolin too when I went back.

SPEAKER_01 39:27

I don't know why they I mean either way, I don't know why they were barking. No, barking.

SPEAKER_08 39:31

They were throwing up. That made them sense to me. Got it, gotta get it.

SPEAKER_11 39:37

That kids were gonna do it. Got it. Every single time I practice or rehearsal. It could be either one of the two, but I mean, I mean this. Going to band as a kid at times, I definitely felt so nervous that I felt sick.

SPEAKER_08 39:51

Um that's because you had no music. And you couldn't read music.

SPEAKER_05 39:56

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_08 40:02

Whoa. You just you said earlier, you said earlier that I don't that you don't get listened to. How dare you?

SPEAKER_11 40:11

Oh, I did. My bad. I didn't even forgot. It's called um oh my gosh. What was I gonna say? If I'm beat down now. No, no, man.

SPEAKER_06 40:23

So, okay, so I don't

The Kids Plotlines And What’s Missing

SPEAKER_06 40:26

know. Let's talk about the kids really quick, right? The worst. So Janie is a neurotic mess. Yes, yeah, and Dylan is a dumb dumb. So these kids are both just on the opposite spectrum. But when Janie had that crash out and she started yelling at her mom for being terrible, right? I feel like that was unearned. Correct, yes. Although her list, her list was a little damning. She even talked about her fucking um homegirl's dad, which I'm like, how does Janie even know about that, right? Because they were in I just go ahead. Oh no, I I just think that Janie it just didn't work for me. The kid things didn't didn't work for me. Janie um lashing out her mom, because the resolution equally didn't work out for me as well. It was just like, oh, the movies because the blow-up was so huge, it distracted me when the movie was starting to conclude. Because I'm like, well, how are they going to resolve this? Because Amy's problem was like the whole PTA thing and so forth or whatever. Her becoming PTA president doesn't resolve that her daughter thinks she's the worst mom ever. So I'm like, well, how are you guys gonna fix this? And it was just, she's like, I forgive you.

SPEAKER_08 41:49

I was just stressed. Right. I'm good. I'm back on the scene.

SPEAKER_06 41:53

If you don't, if you don't whoop that girl's ass, like what is happening right now?

SPEAKER_08 41:56

I know the thing for me was that they just drop Dylan like halfway through the movie. Like, he doesn't have like he doesn't get his moment where he's like upset with mom like that. He just learns how to cook. You know, he doesn't um get the day out at the spa. You know, he doesn't get any of that. He just like goes away and just comes back when it's convenient.

SPEAKER_06 42:18

So I have a theory on that because I agree with you, uh Trendel. I just think that um Dylan just is not he's not that good of an actor. Oh yeah. I I just I just think that's what it is because when you look at um uh Janie, her name is Una Lawrence, like she's like in movies and stuff, you know? Um like she has a better, a better resume. Oh, okay. And I just think she was just a more experienced or or whatever actor. So I think they just put Dylan to the wayside. Because I also, when he said he made up frittadas, and I got a little annoyed because I kind of wanted to see Dylan goes dirty, it didn't have to be a focus point of the movie, but even if he was like in the background, like fucking around in the kitchen or something, or they made like little comments like what is Dylan? Exactly, they just as you said, ignore him, and then he's a world-class chef at the end of the movie. I guess to teach us that all kids can become something or something. I don't know.

SPEAKER_11 43:21

I I guess I do feel like they had too many different vantage points going on to really focus on them. Like, because when you take a look too at the husband, they didn't go to that therapy that I don't want to talk about a little bit more, but they kind of smoothed that thing over and their understanding of like we don't belong together after that one session. The way that I was able to fill in the blanks in my head is like after they went with him to the hotel, I gotta assume that he was doing the work of being like, you know, your mom is great. I mean, you bitches are stupid.

SPEAKER_02 43:54

You gotta calm down and like stop being ridiculous.

SPEAKER_11 43:57

Because when he came back from with the dad, you know. Know they were better. And I feel like with Dylan, he didn't have problems. I think now he's the whole point of why he doesn't have a storyline because his problem was the involvement of his mother. So to fix him, it really was just like, go be over there, Dylan. And because he had was forced to be independent, he was able to find self-sufficience and like really thrive. And I was like, Oh, yeah, I didn't see you for like three days, and now I'm a chef. And I did well on my assignment.

SPEAKER_08 44:30

I love I love you feeling in this lore. Like, I love you feeling in this lore and giving us these off-camera moment.

SPEAKER_11 44:37

That's what I have to do, like in my head, because yeah, it was very like that. And I think Trendel notices it more than me, where he'll be like, We haven't seen Dylan in this amount of time. And I really didn't notice initially upon watching it. So yeah, my brain is like, he gotta be. I don't know. But yeah. Yeah. That's how I was. He was thriving.

SPEAKER_01 45:01

How was the dad affording Waldorf capital prices?

SPEAKER_06 45:06

He's cleaning out their he's cleaning out their savings. Clearly. Their bank accounts are so joint.

SPEAKER_00 45:10

Wasn't he like a more worker?

SPEAKER_08 45:12

But he wasn't good at it.

SPEAKER_01 45:15

I don't give a shit. What he is. He's not, he's he cannot afford that.

SPEAKER_11 45:18

Like a good amount of money coming in. I don't think he's gonna.

SPEAKER_08 45:22

He was there for like a couple weeks. I mean money was never a problem for them.

SPEAKER_06 45:26

That wasn't their problem. So this is what I mean. True. Because let's be honest too. Home girl has a part-time job. They have a big nice place, also. Yeah. Right? So they clearly I don't know. I don't think yeah, finances wasn't a problem, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 45:43

Fine. We're doing the um home alone theory. This is what I think. There ain't no fucking way those two people could afford that neighborhood in that school and also him staying there for two weeks or whatever, however long he was there. We don't know he was there. So it's like $500 to $1,000 a night.

SPEAKER_11 46:02

I don't know that he was there all that time because first when he was first introduced, he was like, Oh, she was like, Oh yeah, he's a mortgage broker and he does really good. And then she looks at him and seems scruffy, and she was like, Some of the times. So he could have gotten a really big windfall. I think when he left that house, he immediately went to Thick Bush's house. And then when Thick Bush got tired of him and kicked him out, that's when he came back and was like, I missed my wife. I missed my family.

SPEAKER_07 46:28

Did you did you write a whole did you read the script for like the dad or something? Or like this is what I got.

SPEAKER_06 46:37

He is the least interesting character. You filled in all this information about him. I didn't expect you to talk about him at all.

SPEAKER_11 46:43

He said the words. This is what she said. She's like he's a mortgage brother who does really great friendship. No, I know, I know. And I was like, it gotta be that, gotta be a big windfall. We sitting high. And as soon as she kicked him out, he's going over there to that hairy pussy. That's where he went.

SPEAKER_03 46:57

Oh.

SPEAKER_11 46:58

And then he came back and were like, I miss my family. Because she kicked him out. He wasn't spanning over with us. After he came back and tried to move in, that's when he went to the to the Waldorf Astoria. Oh. So they're only gonna be broken the next couple of weeks. But for right now, they're fine.

SPEAKER_06 47:14

Let me find out. There's a wiki page for bad moms that you write. Correct. This is a lot of a lot of extra information. Absolutely. Um okay, so we we didn't talk a lot about the the mean moms, we'll

Mean Moms And PTA Power Games

SPEAKER_06 47:34

call them. We did talk about Gwendolyn. Well, we talked about Gwendolyn and Stacey, and then Vicky was just kind of there, which uh there was a funny joke because Vicky just Vicky just didn't seem to fit in with them. I I don't understand. And even Gwendolyn was like, I don't know why we're friends with you, or why we hang out with you. And I think I was kind of like, yeah, I don't know why either. Like, what is happening there? Because if any of them were to like defect from that group, it would seem like Vicky would be the way. Absolutely. Yeah, she just was never on the same same page with them. But Gwendolyn, man, I I'm sorry, right? This whole like mom feud PTA thing. Um Gwendolyn took that shit way too far. She did. She planted drugs in a job. She did. That is crazy.

SPEAKER_01 48:17

That was crazy.

SPEAKER_06 48:19

It's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 48:20

It's nuts. Because who really cares that much to ruin a kid's experience in middle school? This is middle school. This isn't some like school. Like she said, she needed a hobby.

SPEAKER_04 48:33

She needed something.

SPEAKER_06 48:34

Well, listen, remember, she did rattle her life situation at the end, and I have it listed here. Her husband was arrested for embezzling a hundred million from a children's charity. She is addicted to Vikodin, apparently. Her brother's Jewish and has joined ISIS. And let's not forget the most important, the DVR stopped recording Castle, right? So her life is in shambles. And but it was also Wendell Pierce's character, the principal, being like, damn, that girl can roll a tight joint. So I'm like, did so that maybe one did Gwenly roll that or did she buy it pre-roll? These are the questions.

SPEAKER_11 49:14

She probably bought it pre-rolled. I don't know, man. She may have rolled it. You can't even get Viking and nah. It's our perks. What?

SPEAKER_06 49:23

You were about the wrong.

SPEAKER_11 49:24

Oh, this is 2016.

SPEAKER_06 49:25

Yeah, this is 10 years ago. Viking was the rage 10 years ago. Yeah. Okay, so yeah.

SPEAKER_11 49:31

I definitely think she rolled their drugs herself. I think so.

SPEAKER_06 49:34

How do you guys feel Amy handled her nemesis planting drugs on her daughter?

SPEAKER_11 49:43

She didn't resort to physical violence.

SPEAKER_08 49:46

Right. Maybe she should have.

unknown 49:49

You know.

SPEAKER_08 49:50

I'm not gonna say violence is the answer, but this would have been justified.

SPEAKER_11 49:54

Legally, she did it. Nothing wrong, but I would have stomped the fucking mud hole in that bitch. You're crazy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:03

I mean, I don't know. I feel like I mean she brought it up to the administrator, the principal, or whoever he was. I assume he was a principal.

SPEAKER_06 50:12

Well she didn't bring it up. She was called into the meeting. Right. Confirmed. That's true. That's true. That's true.

SPEAKER_01 50:19

That's true. That's true. So I mean, she was kind of blindsided of like, oh, your kid has drugs, which it's true or not. I don't know, but you know, it is caught. Like the drugs are in there. So it's like it's kind of hard to argue a fact that is known. Whether somebody else put it in there, that's a different story, but it's just like, all right, the drugs are in there. So I don't know. I don't think she handled it horribly. I mean, you know, she handled it the best way she felt she knew how to, which is like now she has to win the PT a bid to like take away the power from this woman.

SPEAKER_06 50:53

Yeah. I don't know, man. I I thought she fucked up. I don't think she handled that well at all. I think she should have fucking I agree. She needed to get her lick back or something. Like, I don't I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 51:01

I mean, I I I'm not trying to advocate for violence, but um uh a shot lick back was to take away the one thing that she finds is super important.

SPEAKER_06 51:11

I I just feel like she never I just feel like she never got outraged enough. Maybe that's my problem. Like she just she was more like what I don't know, but there was no outrage. Like, how do you not feel outrage? You know, I mean she did storming.

SPEAKER_11 51:24

I feel like the storming energy was good.

SPEAKER_09 51:26

Even this but the storm it was weak.

SPEAKER_06 51:28

Yeah, she walked in. She walked in and had a conversation with her and then left. Like, nah, man. Like, listen, yeah I was first of all, I was kicking that door in. Like, she kicked in the door for the the coaches um thing when the girl got benched, right?

SPEAKER_09 51:45

She did.

SPEAKER_06 51:45

So she should have brought that same energy and elevated it. I was kicked in the fucking double doors to that dining hall, and I was clearing harassed first of all, I was clearing the fucking table. She said, like a guy's meal. I was dragging all that shit off.

SPEAKER_11 51:59

Like, that drive across town cooled her down. Those doors were slopping.

SPEAKER_06 52:06

I know, she broke her ankle.

SPEAKER_01 52:08

She tried to kick it. She broke her shit. She tried to at first. That's the part we didn't see. She tried to kick it. That shit went fuck and she just dropped. She's like, oh shit. Oh, maybe that should call me for shit, man.

SPEAKER_06 52:19

That's true. That is true. But yeah, I just think the movie just Gwendolyn, this this villain that made Gwendolyn, it probably got to be a little too big. That was a hell of an overreaction with the drugs. And but I guess they kind of hinted at that or foreshadowed just her intensity when we had that initial meeting, right? With the the PTA sales stuff and everything. Correct.

SPEAKER_11 52:44

Right? That video, that video, that video made me scream so much. That's probably one of my favorite parts of this entire film. This bitches on the stage. Yeah, we talked about it a little bit when she's like declaring all of the shit that can't be in the pastries. But then she said, we are creating a pastry watch authority that will be fucking punishing bitches. There was militant police beatings on the street. And Stacey went back.

SPEAKER_08 53:14

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 53:15

My note was oh wow. I say, how'd they get that video from Minnesota 10 years in the future?

unknown 53:20

Woo!

SPEAKER_03 53:25

Look at this guy.

SPEAKER_11 53:30

And this is what gets us canceled. All right. That part. But real shit though. That shit was intense and it was absurd. That was the most absurd shit. You coming over to my first of all for a bake sale. That's one thing I hate. I've seen it in a couple of the movies and other cinema. Bitches who are like, you have to home bake shit for a bake sale. Girl, fuck you. Yeah. Like, you gotta get out of my face. She came over to her damn treats and knocked that shit over. We would have thought right here. Yeah. We would have puzzled.

SPEAKER_06 54:08

See, that's the energy right there. Uh after this happened, where her daughter got kicked out the team, Amy decided that she is gonna run for PTA president to challenge Gwendolyn because obviously all of her power lays in this PTA president title, and to take it away from her, she decides to challenge her. And there's some difficulties because as Kiki and Um Carla let her let Amy know, is that um Gwendolyn has all of the moms: the tiger moms, the sad moms, blagging blogging moms, CrossFit moms, camel toe moms, drunk moms, the moms you want to fuck, the moms that used to be dads, the moms of huge Ariolas, divorce moms, black moms, black divorce moms, etc. So uh given that tall order, you know, they were trying to figure out what to do, they throw a well, they they have they call for a meeting, uh a party meeting, but Gwendolyn, of course, counters with her own conference? Party, seminar? That was not a party. That was not a party, whatever that was. It was not um luncheon. And one lady, I think her name was Janice. I think we saw her in her text message. One lady showed up because she was afraid that Carla would fuck her husband.

SPEAKER_11 55:29

And and that's why you didn't like Carla. Get your wax here, I will fuck your man now.

SPEAKER_06 55:35

I guess she said she sent it to several moms, only one took her seriously, and then the four of them end up having a great time. They start texting the other moms who are being bored out of their minds at Gwendolyn's house, and now we have a crazy house party. With Martha Stewart. With Martha Stewart.

SPEAKER_08 55:53

They have a she was so rude to Martha Stewart, that was crazy. That's what made it so funny, too, because like she has no bounds. Gwendolyn has no chill at all. Don't talk to me. Martha was like, well, you know what I have this? Alright, enough.

SPEAKER_06 56:07

Um, so they have this rager at Amy's house, um, which just gets out of hand, and I guess everyone said to hell with their kids because all these moms were there until at least 11 p.m. is what we were told, because that's when the the party ended. So it's the night of the PTA. We're gonna fast forward to the night of the PTA meeting because you know, it's just jokes happening in a movie.

The Election Speech And Mom Confessions

SPEAKER_06 56:30

And Amy decides she was not gonna go, and Carla and Kiki come to get her out of her funk. And Carla gave her a rousing speech, got her in gear, and then they went down to the election just in time for her to make it for her own.

SPEAKER_01 56:50

They teat it up. She was already on stage.

SPEAKER_11 56:53

Gwendolyn, she got two minutes, and she said, I'm gonna take however much fucking time I need.

SPEAKER_01 56:58

She did say that. Yeah, I I know, but still Gwendolyn.

SPEAKER_06 57:03

Gwendolyn spoke for an incredibly long time. Yeah, that's that's that's really it. So they get there, and um they they Kiki's not Kiki, I'm sorry, Amy's speech is about listen, yep, I am a bad mom, and all of us are bad moms, and it's okay being a bad mom because we work so hard, and we just need to be okay with being bad because the intent is there, we're trying our best, and we just need to give ourselves some grace. This inspired a slew of women to stand up and make some unprompted confessions about what kind of bad moms they are. And of course, I've written all of them down. And you all are going to rank and tell me which is the worst of these moms, okay, based on what I have here, right? So the first one came in very strong, very hot, and said that her children haven't had a bath in three weeks.

SPEAKER_11 58:04

Typical white people's beginnings. Next.

SPEAKER_06 58:08

The next one, that is that was a lot, drill. The next one said she took her son's weed and smoked the shit out of it. The next one said she gives her kids Benadryl every Tuesday night to watch the voice. The next mom said she can't tell her twins apart, which okay, that sounds that's not that bad. Not that bad at the time. The next one said she let a seven-year-old, her seven-year-old, watch Mad Max. Um, another mom drinks margaritas for breakfast. Another mom threw her kid's violin into the garbage. Some lady got up speaking in what sounds like an Eastern European language, to which Carla said, Oh, I'm sorry, honey, we don't speak Spanish. Ridiculous. Um, and then the last mom said that she likes the nanny better than her husband. That's the last mom because the final woman who spoke is not a mother, it's a sad lady who doesn't have kids, who just attends the PTA meetings to feel included. Yeah. We're gonna put that obvious predator aside because she's a problem and she's about to kidnap. She should not be affiliated, she should not be at that school. She has no kids there. She was not at that school.

SPEAKER_11 59:20

They were trying to re-sheep on mean girls' nachos. They were trying to pull a mean girl's mouth. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 59:26

You don't even go in there.

SPEAKER_06 59:27

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 59:28

You don't even go here. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 59:29

Okay, is that what that was? Yeah, okay, yeah. That's okay. So we're gonna disregard that lady, but of all the ones I give you, who is the worst mom of that bunch?

SPEAKER_11 59:38

The one who gives their kids sleeping medication. They have a dependency. You're going to jail. You shouldn't do that.

SPEAKER_06 59:46

It's only once a night. But it's only it's only once a night. Only once a week. I mean, sorry, once a week, I mean. It's only once a week. Yeah, only on Tuesday?

SPEAKER_01 59:55

That's the worst one. Yeah, the bath mom is probably the worst. Like, bathe your kids, bro.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:00

They're spreading diseases and germs to all their last time.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:03

You know they're dick. You know they're an anti-vaxxer, too, if they're not bathing their kids without 100%. Yeah. What's your choice?

SPEAKER_08 1:00:14

I agree. It's the bath mom that's um the worst, even though a close second, and y'all not gonna probably think this, but the violin mom is a close second. Because it sounds small, but that's a lot. It is like your kid really wants to play the violin and you threw it away. That is like you just dashed the greens.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:34

Violins are also very expensive too. Yeah. Um, that's what I've read. I I agree though with Jill and Trendel. I think the obvious answer is the the one who hasn't bathed their kids in three damn weeks. That is just terrible. And I think as far as like delivering jokes, I think they they they um they kind of blew it because they let that was the first mom who stood up. So it kind of made the rest not sound like that big of a deal, you know? Because to me, you cannot top not bathing your kids. Like that's just exactly that's that's tough. That's tough.

SPEAKER_11 1:01:08

I've been on TikTok. These moms, these moms be like, my kids don't bathe during the summer. We just go down to the swimming hole. Water is water. I've literally seen it. Yeah, go to the lake, it's exhausting. Yeah, and then kids just think it. People who think like, oh, they're a baby, they they can't smell. That's not true. That's not true at all.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:29

Yeah, that's that's tough. That's tough. Um, so because of this speech, well, do you guys have any comments on the actual like the election stuff, other than these terrible, struggling moms?

SPEAKER_08 1:01:45

So, my biggest thing with the election, like the whole speech showing up on time, I I let that pass. He showed up on time, okay. But she's like, you needed to prepare your opening statement. And she's like, opening statement?

Does A “Do Less” PTA Work?

SPEAKER_08 1:01:58

I don't have anything. Like, you just you just decided to stop doing this now. How come you don't have any prep work prior? Yeah, you just decided today you weren't gonna go. You were supposed to go.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:11

You were supposed to go. You know, what actually threw me with this whole thing is her deciding that she's going to run for PTA president. Like, were we in an election cycle? Or like is it time for yeah, like how convenient? So there unless there's like some clause that's like you can challenge somebody and like call for a special election. But I'm like, what the how does she just because I'm like, all right, how long is this gonna take? This girl is trying to piss soccer now. So I'm like, dude, this is not gonna resolve until like the end of the school year or the next school year or something. I don't know, that was weird. She just decided that there's a PTA election that's about to happen. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:53

Yeah, I think it was just I think Trinelle hit it on the head just plot convenience of just like they needed this to happen because yeah, it doesn't work like that. Yeah, unless someone does something egregious, like plant drugs on a kid, like you know. Right.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:06

But you know, which is whatever all criminal behavior, but okay. Um so surprise, surprise, Amy won and she becomes the new PTA president. Uh, we already talked about it.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:18

I don't think either of them deserve to win, let's be honest.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:21

Um Amy had no platform to run on. Like, let's be like, she did this just to help her daughter and stuff, and she got up there and said, hey, it's okay to be a bad mom. Uh and she was like, Oh, we're not gonna do any more this, no, no, that you have to do fucking fundraisers. It's an organization.

SPEAKER_11 1:03:37

She said not so much. Her platform was y'all know what that shit is over there, and I know it sucks. I know you hate it. Let's not. How about it? Let's not be that, and everybody were like, fuck yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:51

So her platform was shit. Like, she had no real plan for anything. Like, it really truly was just like, which I understand doing less, but you still have to have a plan. And she didn't have anything.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:00

Like, uh, even though like uh Gwendolyn was shitty, she at least had a plan and you knew what you were gonna do, and you knew what was gonna happen.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:10

But like this whole let's just do less of, what does that mean? Less homework, less fundraising, less PT meeting, PTA meetings is like okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:20

No, yeah, the point, and this is what I was but the point of the PTA is one to provide additional support for the teachers and for your students and stuff, um, financially, whether it's like buying supplies or funding field trips or that type of stuff. Like you food is like the um the parent helper date, you know, type thing when parents go into the the the classroom for the day, and especially a school of that size, because obviously a large school, you you would benefit from having a functioning PTA organization, you know. So um, yes, Gwendolyn was like overbearing about it, but I think swinging in the opposite direction totally and just being like, fuck it, just you know, we're just gonna hang out or whatever and do just maybe the bare minimum. An undefined minimum, by the way, that is disastrous. Absolutely. Yeah, it is. She should not have won.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:16

But neither of them should have won, but yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:21

I mean, the PTA is gonna collapse upon itself and dissolve by the end of the following school year. 100%.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:29

Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:30

The foreside.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:31

I mean, she could learn, hopefully, on the job. I guess.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:35

I guess. I mean, who's who's gonna like file the friggin' uh renewal documents for the nonprofit, you know? Like, let's be honest. Right.

SPEAKER_11 1:05:44

And then they're gonna end up working together. Yeah, Gwendolyn's gonna help. Yeah, honestly.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:50

I guess, I guess so. They're they're gonna be friends. So

Ending Montage And The Jet Forgiveness

SPEAKER_06 1:05:55

that's pretty much wrapping the movie, right? The day we have a little um Montage there at the end with all the moms being good moms or something or whatever all of a sudden. And what what I have a couple notes. Well, we already talked about Amy and her the resolution with her kids being just random plot bullshit, which didn't even make any sense. Uh Kiki, we talked about Kiki and I guess she's wearing her pants in a relationship now, right? Guys, what distracted me about this scene? If you pause a movie at one hour, 30 minutes, and 26 seconds, there's a random girl, there's a random girl walking alongside or near them. She's wearing almost the same outfit as Kiki's husband, that same plaid shirt. Did anyone else see that?

SPEAKER_10 1:06:44

No.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:45

No. Oh my god. It was so distracting. I had to pause it, rewind it, and then obviously I took a timestamp because it's crazy. I don't just like from a costume standpoint. I was I was like, do they have an older kid I didn't know about? But she was she was like in the background, she was like walking side by side with them, and then she leaves a frame. But um, it's not the exact same plot, but it's very similar. It's too close. It's like, oh, this is my daughter, we're matching today, type of um closeness. So okay, but it's just me, whatever. I'm gonna move on from that. You just took up time.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:20

No, I want to see it now. No, you just took up time.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:24

And then Claire, is their school just a middle school, or is it uh junior, a middle, and high school combined? Because Claire's son looks like he needs to be in college.

SPEAKER_11 1:07:37

He's 12. That's what that's what she said when they were at school. She said he's 12.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:41

Yeah, he is very young.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:43

He just needs to play football with him.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:45

Big ass shit. Well, he plays softball, but Jesus. All right, cool stuff. And then um and then I guess they're friends with uh with Gwendolyn now because they go on her private jet, which at first I was like, nah, man, I can't break bread with her. Like she planted drugs on my kid. And then I saw her invite them on the private jet, and I was like, All right, I mean, I guess we could be friendly of sorts, give some stuff. I would have, yeah, I would have to get over it, but I feel I still feel like she should have got her lick back. But I guess her winning the president thing is her come up and stuff.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:24

Yeah, so yeah, not even drugs on the plane or something.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:27

Oh gosh, call the F A and damn. Right, right. That's a federal thing now.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:33

Nobody has access to the city. Going to jail.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:35

The ultimate federal. Yeah, yeah, that's bad. Yeah, so that is bad. Um how did you guys like this movie? No. No. I mean what I'm gonna tell you I liked it. I yeah, I liked it. It was fine. It's not great. It was fine. To me, though, the best part of the movie um was the post-credit scene. Um, with the interview with the moms. Yeah, I loved it. That was that was it was just it was amazing. It was great. Like, I feel I felt emotional watching it. I was like, this is some awesome stuff. And you could see like like Catherine Hannah her mom look like almost the same. Uh J. Pinkett and her mom as well, and someone else and their mom, you could like see like right away. But I just thought that was very sweet. I like that they did that. Um, and it it kind of made sitting through that like where that's movie worth it just to see that bond and that that interview with their moms and everything. Uh Mila Coonis' mom was very sweet. I just love the whole thing. Yeah, she was super nice.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:40

And then I'll go no. All right, let's go for it.

Ratings And Final Scores

SPEAKER_06 1:09:43

All right, well, let's rate this thing. For any newcomers, we rate our movies based on five categories: plot and writing, acting, casting, production, cinematography, music and sound, and cultural impact. Everything is rated on a scale of one to ten. We will begin with our guests first. I will start with Relly. What do you have for plot and writing? For plot and writing, I give it a five. Five. Okay. Yeah. Cool. Deli, what you got?

SPEAKER_08 1:10:16

I gave it a six.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:18

Oh, six? All right. Yeah. Jill, where are you?

SPEAKER_04 1:10:24

I gave it a four.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:25

Yep. That's my co-host. I give it a four as well. Come on now. Oh. Uh, Deli, do you feel the urge to kind of explain why you gave it a six or um I thought I was being aggressive with a six.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:39

Oh, you thought we would all be higher than you? Yes. Oh, okay. I thought I was being aggressive. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:48

Because five is an average.

SPEAKER_11 1:10:51

Yeah. Yeah. I think I have in my notes Tupperware, Pinterest, explosive diarrhea. I don't remember when somebody yelled it, but they yelled it. There was something that was going on. I think Kristen did. It was the and I also have dialogue is super cringy. There was a lot of weird moments and just like wild dialogue that happened in the film. But yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:20

Um I mean you could tell uh they were trying to cram a lot of jokes into. They were. Not all of them, not all of them were landing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:28

Yeah. I didn't like, and this is just a this is just a trope. I I just it bothered me the whole why her life have to completely fall apart before she like, I guess, re-gets redeemed. Like she loses her husband, the kids hate her, and the job fires her.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:43

Yeah, we didn't even talk about her job. All that was bullshit. She was because one, the husband wasn't shit, so good riddance. The we already talked about how the kids not liking her was just forced bullshit because I even wrote in my notes when she said um even dad's a better parent than you. Like, what I was like, get the fuck out of it. You don't believe that. That girl is very smart. You know your father ain't shit. And then the job firing her, clearly she's your best um employee. You're getting so much extra hours from her. So yeah, I agree with you, Jill. That whole contrived her life is ruined thing, none of it was believable.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:19

Yeah, that's what bothered me. So that's why she gets a four from me. Or they the movie gets a four.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:24

Um, actin' and casting. Relly, what you have?

SPEAKER_11 1:12:28

I gave it a six. A little bit higher.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:30

Six, okay. Okay. Uh Deli?

SPEAKER_08 1:12:35

I gave it a seven. Um, I feel like everybody was fully like who they were supposed to be, fully realized, as much as they could be. So nice archetypes, cliches. Jill. Jill, what do you got?

SPEAKER_04 1:12:49

Yeah, I gave it a seven um because I because of Catherine Hahn, really. I think she just completely steals it. Um and then I like Kristen Bell.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:57

And Milo Cunis was cool, but she was fine. She was she was alright. Yeah, she was alright. This is and then, of course, Christina Applegate, which we've already gushed about, so yeah. I won't talk anymore about that.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:09

Um I likewise have a seven.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:13

Jesus Christ. I know. Just steal my ideas, why don't you?

SPEAKER_06 1:13:16

I I actually scored it beforehand, so I'm not even like figuring this out right now. Like all my scores are.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:21

Oh, I'm doing it right now off the dome.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:24

Joel, did you have a comment under acting?

SPEAKER_11 1:13:26

Yeah, I did tell Trendell last night um when we went to the movies to see something else. I I felt like this was probably the worst version of almost everybody that was in this film. Like, oh my gosh. I I feel yeah, man, like Mila Kunis was Mila Kunis. Kristen was Kristen. We've seen Kristen do the dry thing, aloof mom, aloof lady, crazy, you know, that type of humor. We've seen them all do exactly what these characters were, but I just don't think it was 100% the best. But we still had some really great, funny laugh out loud moments. Like Jada Pinkett is way better than this. Jada Pinkett is really funny than this. Her timing is oh, I think. I think Jada Pinkett is better than the performance that she gave on this film that the character was right.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:16

Well, uh, I mean, she it was a supporter. She did what she was asked of her, yeah. Give her a lot.

SPEAKER_11 1:14:22

Yeah. No, but it didn't give her a lot to do, but she actually had a lot of important beats in like her design delivery. Like once um Gwendolyn was gone, she would be like the tack end of their whole little trio a lot of the time. And I have some quippy to say or whatever, and it just wasn't 100% there. I feel like everybody was like very middle ground, not awful, or and not unlike themselves. It wasn't like this is unbelievable, or like this isn't even something that you could do. It's just not the best way I've ever seen you do this.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:58

Okay. Um okay. I I I understand what you're saying. Yes, nobody gave a groundbreaking performance in this movie. Um, but it's not that kind of movie either. Um, but yeah, I'm not groundbreaking because I even with somebody like the so but so I I I think you're doing, and this is something me and Jill just talk about when we're scoring different categories, is being careful not to penalize one category for an already uh a category we already penalized. And I think some of the things you're talking about has to do with the plot on writing.

SPEAKER_11 1:15:34

So and and that's the thing too, because yeah, I feel like when you say writing, I think we normally, I normally in my mind I put that as just like the lineup of the story of like, but yeah, it's not like the lineup of the story of like how it flowed, you know, mom overworked, shitty husband, does this, meet these girls, crazy event. You know, the beats and the outline of the story is what I normally look at, like plot and writing. As far as like acting and casting, I typically put like their performance and their dialogue a little bit more in that. So, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:11

No, yes, but I'm saying, yes, you're right. What I'm also saying, though, because the reason it says plot slash writing, I'm telling you how we we interpret it. Right, right. Because with plot, yes, what you describe is a plot, but then the writing, like how you write a character matters too. So, like if you come up there and you do a kind of a shitty performance, is your performance shitty because you're doing a bad job, or was your part written, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So that's that's what I meant by I was saying you could be dinging her of them because the writing, it just wasn't great for a lot of them.

SPEAKER_11 1:16:43

And I agree, I agree. Yeah, uh characters.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:48

Um, all right. Now that Jill, I don't know what you said. Now our co-host fell asleep, so let's let's let's keep it pushing. Oh, production, cinematography, and visuals. Uh Riley, what do you have?

SPEAKER_11 1:17:03

I gave it a five.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:04

Five.

SPEAKER_11 1:17:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:06

Jelly. Um, I gave it a um six. I guess I've been too nice to this movie because I thought I was being scathing. But here I am. Yeah, I gave it a six. I mean, you see one slow-mo shot you'll see in the mall. I mean, okay, hot widower, but it's okay. Yeah, it's a six.

SPEAKER_11 1:17:24

A lot of montages. A lot of slow-mo.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:26

Yeah. Uh, Jill, what did you put?

SPEAKER_01 1:17:30

Um, I'm middle of the road, just five as well. Or yeah, just a five. I think that I like the shot that they did, even though it was you know, slow-mo, and I like the shot in the supermarket. Um, it was kind of wild, it was kind of crazy, but I did like it. But yeah, other than that, there was really nothing going on. It's it's not a cinematic movie. It's just in fact, this is a four. This is a four. Okay. It's not even a five. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:57

All right. So we finally differ, because I do have a five as well. Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:00

Um, I should have known that live. You know what? I said five, and I I want to say five. I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna change it. Let me go four. And uh, you know, oh well.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:11

Oh, first different. Um, and now you're on track to be more pessimistic about the movie, as usual. Um music and sound. What do you have uh already?

SPEAKER_11 1:18:22

I give it an eight. Not because the music was particularly enjoyable, but in 2016, it was the most iconic songs that existed at that time. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Kicked by the ocean. Delhi what do you have? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:38

No, you know. I do have a I do I said the sound, this soundtrack is a pop music wet dream. It's like they took all the pop music of that year. Of that era, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And was like, yep, here you go. So I was like, yep. So I uh that's fair. Anyway, sorry to jump on you, Deli. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:55

Oh, you're fine. You're fine. I'm I'm just a guest. But I gave the sound of music a four, and it's crazy because I used to love here. We go, here we go. I think I gave it a four.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:11

It's just funny that you were higher on everything, and then the one thing that draws higher, you're like, yeah, fuck that. Okay, yeah, tell me about your four. I'm not mad at it.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:22

I gave it a four. I mean, y'all nailed it because it is like the quintessential 2016 like pop soundtrack. But something about it was just so cringy, and all the scenes put with it, I was like, oh, get me out of here.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:36

That's the risk you run with doing that, because it dates your movie too when you do stuff like that.

SPEAKER_11 1:19:41

Where it's just like huge, yeah, unless you have like classic timeless hits.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:47

Correct, which I don't think any of those songs were. No, yeah. Uh Jill?

SPEAKER_01 1:19:54

Actually, I I mimic Trendell there with the four.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:58

Um, yeah. Okay. It's yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:01

I have a five. Um, I just I was unmoved by it as well. And maybe I didn't think hard enough about it. Maybe I would have scored it lower, to be honest. But I I gave a five for that. And then cultural impact. This this is the one I know me and Joe we we struggle with a lot, especially there's some movies where it's easy to be like, oh yeah, cultural impact. And then there's movies like this where it's like, all right, how do you place this? So I'm curious to see what everyone has. Relly, you're up.

SPEAKER_11 1:20:33

I it's one of two numbers. Really, it's a three. Um as far as cultural impact, but I put a seven because I see the sorry, so it's not a three, it's a seven you have. Yeah, because realistically, what it took from like the other places. I don't know. I I I don't know how much it's impacted anything. I don't, I don't think it's impacted anything. I'm gonna give it a three. Fuck it. I'm gonna give it a three because it it chopped up, you know, mean girls. It chopped up bad teacher, it took from a lot of other things, um, you know, to try and make this big culturally important thing and yay, moms, and all this type of stuff. Great message, but did it matter? I don't think so.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:24

Bad teacher is so funny, bro.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:27

It's way better than this movie, and I feel like I was thinking about Bad Teacher when I picked this or something, but I just feel like Bad Teacher is just way funnier. And I this movie didn't go as far. What is this movie rated? Because I think it's uh bad teacher is say again. Isn't it rated? No, it's R. It's an R. No, it's an R. Is it an R? Yeah, I I Yeah, I don't feel like they they earned that R rating though. Like I expected it to go that like like uh like bad teacher, bad words with with um Bateman and stuff. Yeah, so um but Deli, what's your score?

SPEAKER_08 1:22:05

Um my cultural impact score is a two. Okay. And I'm gonna tell you why. I'm gonna tell you what the issue is. I think because we're all kind of dancing around it, but I think this is like the end cap for this type of comedy. Because it's pulling for so much, like Mean Girls, Um Sisters, Um, Mom's Night Out. There's so many other movies like before this that it's pulling from, and I think around this time it was the end of it of that era. So I feel like that's why it's like your cultural impact isn't that great because you don't really have one. You've taken other movies.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:43

That's a that's that's very interesting. Um, I would like to like look into that some more and see like how much more of these types of movies came out afterwards, but what you're saying intellectually sounds right to me. I I I get that. Joe, what did you score it at?

SPEAKER_01 1:22:59

Um, so yeah, there's not much no one's talking about bad moms for real, for real. It's it just it happened, it it was a moment, and it it did what it's supposed to do at the time. The savior was actually the last 10 uh five minutes or whatever it was, um, with the real mom showing up. Um, so if you didn't stay for like the end credits, then you kind of miss that. Or if you didn't watch it at the end here, you would have missed that. So yeah, they don't, it's not really much going on. So I'll give it a solid three as well.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:33

I gave that a two. I think you all really said really well um the problems with the movie, and I don't have anything differing to add to that. So here are our final scores. I will start with our guests. Oh wow, surprisingly, Relly is more optimistic than Deli. You gave it a 5.4, Delhi has a solid five, and then I have a 4.6, and Jill has a 4.4 overall rating for the movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:05

For sure. Sounds about right. I can go with 4.4. Yeah. Yeah. I'm good with that number. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:11

That feels good. That feels good. All right. All

Mother’s Day Shoutouts To Our Moms

SPEAKER_06 1:24:14

right. Well, that will do it for our real talk and banter on bad moms. Before we sign out, though, I'm gonna give a little space if you all wanna leave any messages or parting words for your moms. Because this will come out right ahead of Mother's Day.

SPEAKER_11 1:24:32

Excellent. Specifically to our mom, you know, just thank you for everything. I think you are somebody who has really worked to make sure that we are the best that we could be, um, take care of us, um, but still made sure that we were independent people, making sure that we knew how to do things like cook and clean, um, be good with money, and think about the future. And honestly, always had our back and always supported us like when it came to things in school. I talked about this for her birthday. Like, I was somebody who I was excited when I saw my mom because I knew I wasn't getting in trouble and I didn't do anything wrong. So whenever I saw, you know, whenever I saw her pull up to the school, I never had that thing where kids felt like embarrassed that their parents were there until she started screaming at somebody. And I, you know, somebody went to ASB, allegedly. But outside of that, love you girl, you know, my favorite kisses.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:42

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_11 1:25:43

Heart.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:43

Okay, all right.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:46

I also want to add to that. I also want to add to that specifically for your mom, that she did a hell of a job taking the rest of us in um and being a second mom to a lot of us as we all grew up around each other in church and and and ban and whatnot. So, you know, shout out to her for never making me specifically feel uh different or othered. So appreciate it.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:09

Nice, you're up.

SPEAKER_08 1:26:14

Um, I wanna start by um saying, how the fuck dare you mom on several occasions. No, no, it's clear. Oh god. I was like, oh shit.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:33

Yikes like I was like, oh shit. I should have probably checked with Joe to make sure that Trinello liked his mom because holy shit, this is so awkward. Oh my god, bitch.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:47

Fucking Eminem shows up all of a sudden at the podcast to close itself out. I'm like, oh no. What did I do? We had to cut that out. But no. I wish we were on video because if y'all could see our faces just I was looking at the TV because we tried.

SPEAKER_11 1:27:02

I know.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:04

Trend that was so serious. I mean, Joe was like, oh my God.

SPEAKER_08 1:27:10

It was good. It was classic. I was looking at y'all, I'm like, this is gonna get they ass. But yeah. Oh God, yes, the floor is yours. Let's see. Okay. But honestly, though, really, in reality, um, I've sat her down and I've talked to her, I've said this before, like, you know, just thank you so much for putting up with me, honestly. I mean, and especially financially, because like the hobbies and stuff that I was into, like all these Pokemon cards, these video games, like all these things were very expensive for a woman that has like six kids. So I'm like, you know, you're doing a lot. So thank you so much for that. And I just want you to know that you've taught me much more than you know.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:54

Yep, nice, very sweet, Jill.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:00

All right, moms.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:02

Um a stern talking to you.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:14

Tell you about yourself real quick because yeah, thank you. You uh I think that I as I get older and older and older, and Jesus Christ, older, you see more of the reflection of the things that um you know mothers had to go through. Um specifically my mom. Um she was a single mother, so um I had no idea. I'm by myself and I'm over here struggling, so I had no idea what it took to raise a kid. Um and then on a single, especially on a single freaking um um salary, like that shit is crazy. I I oftentimes ask her, how the hell did you do that? Because ain't no way. Um you know, the stress, the sacrifices, um, the way she held it all together, you know. I never I generally did not know when anything was wrong. And now that I'm adult, I'm like, oh, there must have been like a million things wrong, and you know, I never felt that that squeeze. So she did a hell of a job there. Um yeah, much like much like Jarell, like, or um um Deli, like I or Relly, sorry. I didn't um I was always excited to see my mom. Like she she I didn't have a I didn't have a reason to like ah my mom's coming. Like I was like, oh my mom's here.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:48

And then running over there.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:50

Did you bring snacks? Like, what's going on? She was awesome. So I thank her for for all that she did, all that she's taught me. Um the my my mental fortitude, my background, my drive, it all comes from her, and just trying to um make her proud and do the best I can. So I thank her for that.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:14

Nice, nice. And like you did for my mom, I will do for your mom as well, because I do have a relationship with your mom, and I just remember growing up your mom just being the quintessential cool mom. Just when your mom was showing up, it was like, oh shit, Jill's mom is here, yeah. Like she was awesome, and like she made single being a single mom look good. Like, you know, it was never you know, I spent enough time with you. I've been in your house and stuff, Jill, and you know, it was never like your mom never seemed stressed out or overwhelmed or anything. I'm sure she had to have been, but she was always just great energy and definitely loved getting to know your mom uh growing up.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:56

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:57

To my own.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:58

Now, on that end, yes, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna be controversial.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:02

Here we go.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:03

On that end, it did actually the whole cool mom thing, it did give me a little bit of a complex because I always felt like everybody was around me to be friends with my mom versus like friends with me.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:14

I can see that.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:16

I used to struggle. I used to struggle, bro. And that's why that's why I used to like disappear and shit. Cause I like, well, I'm not important, they're only here for like my mom. So it did, it did get me. It did get me. She is cool. I would give her that, but it did get me as a kid and and even into my like young adult ages, but now I'm like, what the fuck ever. But it did, it did sting me a little bit.

SPEAKER_11 1:31:37

But you know what's the thing to honestly? When the first time I ever saw your mom, it was like that thing where it was like, well, yeah, that makes complete sense. Because like you were one of the coolest people, I felt like in the group. Yeah, like you were very much like.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:53

I just try to say you're cool as hell. Like you've always been thought like Always. Everyone knew you thought you were cool. So that complex thing you have, that was all in your head. I'm sorry. I wish you said that out loud as kids because we would have helped you through that. Because you're you are the cool friend, 100%. Like, yeah, and like Joel said, it made sense. Like, oh yeah, cool mom, cool daughter, duh. Yeah, yeah, 100%. Yeah. All right, to my mother. Hi, mom.

SPEAKER_11 1:32:20

I said our mother, but love you.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:23

Well, okay, well, because I was talking with Jill's mom, so now I'm talking to my our mom.

unknown 1:32:32

Hey, whatever.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:33

Everyone, Jarel is my brother in case no one knew that. Jesus. Oh my gosh. Stepping on my stuff.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:39

I'm sorry. Oh mom, you see what I have to deal with? Gosh. Anyway.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:46

Um, yeah, no, Geral said a lot of it, but you know, we all had our own relationship and special bond with you, and that alone says a lot because you were able to make time for each of us as individuals. Um despite us all dressing alike for for many, many years, we were, you did, you did deal with us on individual levels. And you know, we we were able to form our own bond and connection with you, and um, you were there for us in similar and different ways just throughout life, even till now. I'm grown with two children, and I still find myself leaning on you, and just I'm definitely blessed to be able to have that. I think you know, you I've learned not to take you for granted because I do take for granted how great of a support system I have of like both my parents, you know. But there are people that just don't have good relationships with their parents, good relationships with their mothers, and you know, it shows and it makes life hard for them. And that's not something that I've had to deal with, not something Jarel, my brothers, like we haven't had to deal with that, and it's had to have been hard for you. And just thank you, thank you. We love you, and happy Mother's Day, happy Mother's Day to all the mothers. Love you, uh

Where To Find Relly And Delly

SPEAKER_06 1:34:14

Relly Deli, tell the people where they can find you.

SPEAKER_11 1:34:17

Yes, you can find us at Relly and Deli on all platforms right now. Um Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, Apple, Spotify, YouTube, we're on all of it. And Reddit.

SPEAKER_08 1:34:36

Yeah. And Reddit. We're in all the places. Yeah, yeah. Everywhere.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:41

And I will make sure to link, uh put their link tree, because y'all have a link tree. I'll put that in the comments. Um so please go and check them out. Also, before we go, we you know, you know how we do. We can't just give you one crossover episode. There will be another coming. Yes. Uh, what is that gonna drop on Mother's Day or does that drop?

SPEAKER_11 1:35:01

It'll drop the Wednesday. Uh the Wednesday after Mother's Day. Yeah, the Wednesday afternoon.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:06

Okay, so you guys will hear it as first. We're gonna be the Friday before Mother's Day. Everybody go hang out with their moms, have a great time, and then later on in the week, we'll have a special episode where you will find us on Relly and Deli's feed. To connect with us, to give us some feedback, or to just say hello, email us at realtalkbanter at gmail.com. That's r-e-e-l talkbanter at gmail.com. Thanks for listening.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:32

Bye. Don't forget, guys, love is stronger than space.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:36

Oh, okay. That was very poignant. Something to reflect on. I love it. See ya, everyone.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:42

It was in a movie.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:49

Oopsie Daisy. Okay, but still, like you didn't have to pick like such a heavy food. It was good. I'm glad you did it.